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And my point is and always has been that if there were a total of 300,000 illegals in the US we would easily hunt them down and deport them.
As you of all people should know over 2/3 of the incoming illegals fly into the US. The 1/3 that comes in by the border will be the easy part.
Success on the immigration front is when no illegal lasts 6 months without being detained.
And further the southern border will never be secure. You are never going to get the Texans to agree to block the Rio Grande.
The idea of ridding the country of 10-20 million illegals may sound good on paper but in reality who would then do all the jobs these illegals are currently doing? lvmensch would you be will ing to go toil in the fields all day or do menial minimum wage jobs to fill the void?
Let's put it this way---Any business that caters to illegal aliens or relies on them to stay afloat is a diseased business that needs to die.
First of all, only a small percentage of illegals are working the fields. Since you're in Canada, I'm sure that you don't know this --- farmers have access to an agricultural guest worker visa program that has no caps on it. Honest farmers who use the program have no problems getting their crops picked. It's the sleazy farmers who refuse to use the guest worker program and instead opt for cheap, exploitable, illegal labor that have problems when there are crackdowns on illegals. When those crackdowns on illegals happen, then those sleazy farmers will have reaped what they have sown.
It may surprise you but all those "menial minimum wage jobs" aren't being done by just illegals. Plenty of Americans work them. Even in immigrant-heavy cities if you opened your eyes, you would see Americans cleaning the hotel rooms and working BOH restaurant jobs. In fact, our daughter worked for a chain restaurant conglomerate that used E-verify and they never had trouble finding Americans and legal immigrants to take their jobs.
If we rid the country of illegals, not only would we survive but our quality of life will greatly improve.
BTW, This link got put up on C-D by another poster in a different thread:
Nevertheless, the people who stayed behind told me they had a common reason for doing so. On Wednesday night, noted human rights activist father Alejandro Solalinde visited the stadium and said a Canadian archbishop would be visiting Saturday to talk about transporting asylum-seekers to Canada instead of the U.S.
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The idea of ridding the country of 10-20 million illegals may sound good on paper but in reality who would then do all the jobs these illegals are currently doing? lvmensch would you be will ing to go toil in the fields all day or do menial minimum wage jobs to fill the void?
Actually, only 5% of illegals’ jobs ar eagricultural work now — most of the jobs they take are in Comstruction and landscaping.
If we need more non American workers in any sector, we need to reform legal immigration and make it more efficient and competent to meet our labor needs.
The way to get rid millions of illegals is by taking away the magnets and incentives that bring them and keep them here, and they will eventually self-deport. That saves us a lot of money in legal fees and immigration courts.
First of all, only a small percentage of illegals are working the fields. Since you're in Canada, I'm sure that you don't know this --- farmers have access to an agricultural guest worker visa program that has no caps on it. Honest farmers who use the program have no problems getting their crops picked. It's the sleazy farmers who refuse to use the guest worker program and instead opt for cheap, exploitable, illegal labor that have problems when there are crackdowns on illegals. When those crackdowns on illegals happen, then those sleazy farmers will have reaped what they have sown.
I agree that employers who hire illegals should be subjected to very severe sanctions but H2A is not the answer, it's a horrible program. It needs to be changed and fast because farmers can't depend on it and it's very expensive to use. You have to house the workers transport them from and back to their country of origin, and if you apply for a dozen workers you might get 6 or you might get 12 a month after harvest is over. My cousin grows almonds in California, she gave up on H2A several years ago, now she hires citizens when she can, and when she can't she begs extended family members to help. The problem is that American citizens don't want to quit a full time job for a 2 or 4 month temporary one, and the citizens who aren't working only stay on the job for a few days. It's a problem that is plaguing all farmers and the government just sits back and does nothing. Trump claims he's going to modernize it but for some reason at the same time he's talking about capping the number of H2A visas
Does saying mob so many times in one post earn you extra brownie points?
"Invasion" gets you double miles.
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Can anyone see D.C. actually doing anything about this? No. Our goose has been cooked from the inside out. USA will never be the same.
What? Populated by immigrants? Yeah, don't give me the spiel about illegals, these are people seeking asylum which is legal.
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But the grounds are not. Economic distress, marital discord and crime are not grounds for asylum.
And no one has brought that up but you. And it's weird.
These people are coming from messed up countries. Why don't you let this be handled on a case by case basis instead of lumping them together?
Don't think the countries produce viable asylum seekers? Well, the government disagrees with you as the largest percentage of those accepted as asylum seekers come from these countries.
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But the grounds are not. Economic distress, marital discord and crime are not grounds for asylum.
And many will be turned down. But some will make it. Basically anyone who makes it past the fear interview is likely to be able to join the 11 million.
The hopelessly screwed up immigration court system will end up giving the ones who don't have a great claim but get past the fear interview a couple of years to figure out how to disappear.
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