"No human is illegal on stolen land" (generation, revolution, government)

[phantompilot]

Originally Posted by bingo3000

Yes, America did horrible things in the beginning of the nation's history with the genocide of Native Americans.

That is a fact, okay?


However, why do some on the far left of the political spectrum say that "No one is illegal on stolen land"?

Disagree. What "horrible things" are you referring to anyways?

[4dognight]

Originally Posted by bingo3000

Yes, America did horrible things in the beginning of the nation's history with the genocide of Native Americans.

That is a fact, okay?


However, why do some on the far left of the political spectrum say that "No one is illegal on stolen land"?

The native Americans did horrible things to each other. Which one of them was here first?

[Oldglory]

Originally Posted by 4dognight

The native Americans did horrible things to each other. Which one of them was here first?

There were no natives in the Americas anyway. Everyone migrated here from somewhere else.

[Oakformonday]

Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment

The borders have been mostly open. People want them mostly closed. This is why Trump was elected.

Wait. Now you are saying that some group (that must reside in your mind) doesn't want open borders, they want to keep the status quo. Before you were saying they wanted open borders and now you say the borders are already open. Very confusing.

Are you thinking of the border with Canada? That is a pretty open border, yes.

In the real world, nobody wants open borders. Period.

[The Dark Enlightenment]

Originally Posted by Oakformonday

In the real world, nobody wants open borders. Period.

46% of self-identified liberals want "basically open borders"

[Oakformonday]

Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment

46% of self-identified liberals want "basically open borders"

1. your link does not work
2. Assuming what you wrote is true, 24% of all respondents answered for open borders. Of that 24%, 46% self identified as liberals. Do you understand the math - it's not what you think?

[mtl1]

Originally Posted by bingo3000

Yes, America did horrible things in the beginning of the nation's history with the genocide of Native Americans.

That is a fact, okay?

No not a fact, America did no genocide of American Indians. There were some massacres by both sides

[MrGompers]

Originally Posted by bingo3000

Yes, America did horrible things in the beginning of the nation's history with the genocide of Native Americans.

That is a fact, okay?


However, why do some on the far left of the political spectrum say that "No one is illegal on stolen land"?

Who said that ?

[The Dark Enlightenment]

Originally Posted by Oakformonday

1. your link does not work
2. Assuming what you wrote is true, 24% of all respondents answered for open borders. Of that 24%, 46% self identified as liberals. Do you understand the math - it's not what you think?

No. That was 46% of all self-identified liberals surveyed in that June 2018 Harris Poll.

[mtl1]

Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment

The borders have been mostly open. People want them mostly closed. This is why Trump was elected.

That's what I think, "open borders" doesn't have to be completely open but substantially open to the entire world and once you're here illegally you are very unlikely to be required to leave, so open borders has been the status quo for some time now.