How should we deal with Russian actions? (free speech, leader, party)

[Clarallel]

Originally Posted by Odium14

First provide REAL PROOF Russia did anything wrong...so far I ain't seen NOTHING from LEGIT sources that says they have.

Excuse me, but there is reportedly tons of evidence - but it's extremely technical cyber-stuff that isn't going to be detailed in the media. I've read some of the lighter stuff, and it's tough going.

Originally Posted by rebeldor

I love how people in this country are so quick to ignore how Israel not only interferes in U.S. elections, but how AIPAC basically owns the U.S. government. Netan-yahoo spoke before Congress FFS; has Putin ever done that? Oh, and it's fascinating how many U.S. government employees are dual U.S.-Israeli citizens.

Everybody interferes other countries, and lobbyists prey on us. But I'm not aware of Israel actually hacking and tampering with the mechanisms of our elections.

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by No_Recess

Obviously war.

I'm thinking a little cold war first to ramp up tensions and maximize defense spending

[greywar]

Originally Posted by Clarallel

Excuse me, but there is reportedly tons of evidence - but it's extremely technical cyber-stuff that isn't going to be detailed in the media. I've read some of the lighter stuff, and it's tough going.



Everybody interferes other countries, and lobbyists prey on us. But I'm not aware of Israel actually hacking and tampering with the mechanisms of our elections.

Additionally Russian actions are geared in pretty specific ways lately. They are taking both sides of arguments, and trying to escalate them to divide us. This is far worse then just trying to influence our political choices.

[saltine]

Originally Posted by greywar

Additionally Russian actions are geared in pretty specific ways lately. They are taking both sides of arguments, and trying to escalate them to divide us. This is far worse then just trying to influence our political choices.

Are you saying the Russians control the msm? Because thats what it sounds like youre saying

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by rebeldor

Only if it's thermonuclear.

After all, the U.S. is still the only country to have ever dropped nuclear bombs on another country.

What would Harry S Truman do?

[greywar]

Originally Posted by saltine

Are you saying the Russians control the msm? Because thats what it sounds like youre saying

What utter nonsense. Maybe you should read some of what they are doing in the last indictment.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-re...02316/download

[rebeldor]

Originally Posted by Clarallel

Everybody interferes other countries, and lobbyists prey on us. But I'm not aware of Israel actually hacking and tampering with the mechanisms of our elections.

What's worse--posting memes on Twitter and Fedbook, or actively dictating and influencing U.S. government policy? How many Russian citizens are in Congress?

This is a (not fully current) list of Israeli citizens in U.S. Congress:

[rebeldor]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

What would Harry S Truman do?

Massacre hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. Create the CIA. Oh, and invade Korea.

[greywar]

Look at the people trying to derail this topic. I am impressed. Why do so many fear this topic and want to derail it?

[Odium14]

Originally Posted by rebeldor

What's worse--posting memes on Twitter and Fedbook, or actively dictating and influencing U.S. government policy? How many Russian citizens are in Congress?

This is a (not fully current) list of Israeli citizens in U.S. Congress:

Hey found something we agree on!