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I dont believe he should even attempt an EO on this. It should be done by Congress. I also dont believe we should reward law breaking illegal immigrants by granting their child citizenship. That's just absolutely ridiculous! It makes absolutely no sense.
The discussions of the 14th make it quite clear that the applicability to other groups was discussed and understood. In fact the Gipsies and the Chinese in California were particularly discussed.
Those were not invaders. They were lawfully present persons.
The clause's author said, “This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”[1]
Now, if we could just go back in time and ask him we'd certainly ask him to instead word the clause as, "any person born [to "citizens or lawful permanent residents"] or naturalized in the United States".....because apparently that is what was actually intended.
Instead we have this convoluted "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" which was meant to convey [fully] to the jurisdiction thereof (and thus not owing any allegiance to another nation or being in any regard under the jurisdiction of another nation - as the children of foreigners automatically are, that being the jurisdiction of their parents' nation).
I dont believe he should even attempt an EO on this. It should be done by Congress. I also dont believe we should reward law breaking illegal immigrants by granting their child citizenship. That's just absolutely ridiculous! It makes absolutely no sense.
Lindsay Graham is introducing a bill to do just that. Took Trump to get them off the pot on the issue.
What kind of twisted, bizarre logic is this? Babies are born on ships, in airplanes, and during vacation. The parents return home with the baby. Maybe when the baby is older is can claim dual citizenship. Who is going to 'steal' a baby and make it stay in America because it was born there?
If my parents were German citizens, I would not want my citizenship and rights stolen from me by another country claiming that I was a citizen of theirs.
Those of you supporting EO, could you specify exactly what you would like to see? Do you want to end birth right citizenship to children born of illegal immigrants only? Or are we applying this to all non citizens in the US, like those who have green cards? What about work visas? Student and tourist visas?
Also, are you in favor of retroactively rescinding citizenship?
I support ending birthright citizenship of children whose parents are here illegally. Green card holders have legal residence here and plan on making this country their permanent home so I would say their kids should be allotted birthright citizenship providing that the parents denounce their homeland's citizenship. If one is here on a work visa, student or tourist visa it's only temporary then no, their kids should not be given our birthright citizenship.
SCOTUS in Wong Kim Ark. Per the ruling, LPR's US-born children have birthright US citizenship. Cruz's mother was a US citizen and his father became a LPR in 1961, before Ted Cruz was born.
You are wrong again, Wong Kim Ark's parents were not legal permanent residents.
Wong Kim Ark was born in San Francisco, California, in 1873. His father, Wong Si Ping and his mother Wee Lee, were immigrants from China. His father was a merchant and a member of the firm, Quong Sing & Co., based in the city of San Francisco. They were not eligible to become citizens of the United States. When they immigrated, only "free white persons" could become naturalized citizens of the United States. That had been the law since the Naturalization Act of 1790, and persisted even when the Naturalization Act of 1870 extended citizenship to "aliens of African nativity and persons of African descent." Wong Kim Ark's parents were not eligible for U.S. citizenship even if they made the United States their permanent home, but Wong Kim Ark was born in the United States and was granted citizenship under the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment. United States v. Wong Kim Ark | Densho Encyclopedia
Vote against those who support it is all anyone can really do.
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LOL I live in a state where it would most likely not make one ounce of difference what I voice with respect to illegal immigrants. CA offers incentives for them to come here! This state is very fascist and socialist on many levels.
Ever hear of One California or the California Dream Act?
I support ending birthright citizenship of children whose parents are here illegally. Green card holders have legal residence here and plan on making this country their permanent home so I would say their kids should be allotted birthright citizenship providing that the parents denounce their homeland's citizenship. If one is here on a work visa, student or tourist visa it's only temporary then no, their kids should not be given our birthright citizenship.
Brilliant idea so tens of millions of former US Citizens would no longer have to pay taxes, obey laws or pay fines because the only way their citizenship can be revoked is if it is deemed that they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US
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