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Old 10-31-2018, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You got a link about this one? I haven't heard of it before.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/troubled-waters/
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Old 10-31-2018, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Oh, I dunno. Trump supporters seem to be fine with neo-Nazis, just as they're fine with Trump's lies, fraud, ignorance, misogyny, and everything else that decent people abhor. I hope, as an Independent, you step back from the GOP until they regain their sanity again.
the way you post...no way you are an independent...you are far, far left
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:48 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I'm warning Republicans here. You don't get it. The mainstream media dictates how the flow of information is spread. Yes, Republicans and some hardcore conservatives bypass the MSM for talk radio, Newsbusters, etc., but please:


Repudiate the neo-Nazis that are creeping into the GOP.


Don Lemon, Oprah, etc. are all out on force slamming the GOP.


Is Brian Kemp a white nationalist? Is Ron DeSantis a white nationalist?


My God, suburban bastions used to be Republican, but Trump is creeping these people to vote Democratic.


I'm an Independent who is still undecided about Tuesday, but my god, get the neo-nazis out of politics. Why is Steve Bannon campaigning in VA-07?
Don Lemon is a complete liberal hack. Trump has never supported neo-Nazis. His comments about Charlottesville like all his controversial comments were taken out of context. When he said there were fine people on both sides he wasn't referring to fine people among the neo-Nazis, but among the Confederate monument defenders!!!

There were MANY protesters who were NOT racists or Nazis who simply were expressing Southern pride and respect for Southern history who were protesting the insane level of political correctness that caused Charlottesville to take the statues and flags down. The liberal probably believes anyone who supports the Confederate flag at all is a neo-nazi though. Their wholesale attack on Southern culture after the Charleston shooting is in clear contrast to their kid gloves with islam after multiple Islamic terrorist attacks. The liberals and the media were on a wholesale attack on Southern culture because of what Dylan Roof alone did.

I'm a person of color and the son of LEGAL immigrants and a native Southerner. The Confederate flag is the symbol of our region and our culture not slavery or racism much like the hijab is the symbol of Islam.
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Old 11-01-2018, 09:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by treasurefinder View Post
Well when #45 says he is a Nationalist, and no one in the party bats an eye...
Why should they, as nationalism is a common and desirable ideology for ones own country.

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The Democrat Machine is a one trick pony... their 'deplorables' 'blame and shame' game is sooo 2016.
Don't ever forget Hillary went even a step further to say they are "irredeemable".

This from a woman who wanted to undo some of her husbands policies that incarcerated large numbers of criminals. I guess in her warped thinking actual criminals were redeemable, yet political opponents were not.
Who has the nerve to claim huge numbers of our law abiding citizens are irredeemable other than some of these leftist kooks?
Also never forget, Hillary is an admirer of Saul Alinsky, and that tells you where the 60's radicals (who are now in prominent positions of power today), are really coming from.
It is no wonder why the Democrat party went from moderate/liberal, to now being hardcore leftist.

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When anyone condemns nationalist with the term "white nationalist" they are making a very racist implication.

It's implying that all white unity, solidarity and white majorities most be eliminated because the white race is morally inferior.

It's very racist in motivation and goals to denounce "nationalist" and "white nationalist" when by default America is a historical white majority nation. That is a denouncement of white people in general and America.
Indeed
The MSM has been working hard to take the term nationalist and marry it to white people, as if no one else can be a nationalist. Then they try to make it synonymous with supremacist in an effort to smear anyone (but especially Trump) as being a racist.
All one needs to do is read some of the comments the leftist posters write here, and you can see how they have been brainwashed into thinking Trump and Republicans are all _____ist, ______phobic etc.
There is certainly a concerted effort to do so, but the koolaid drinkers are content to belly up to the Hate-Trump bar to get refills of false rhetoric.

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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
Nationalist, believe in the nation over Globalism.
What prefix is used, depends on the person using it.
^^^

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That’s a gross oversimplification that blindly ignores historical context.
Well please tell us what historical context you are referring to?

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Yeah? "Very fine people ON both sides".




It would appear that even Trump knows the word is loaded because he prefaced his statement with "I know we're not supposed to say this".
Oh brother, the attempt to educate some here never ends. The fine people on both sides was not what the leftist media tried to infer, nor those predisposed to hate Trump want to believe.
There were actual protesters in NC that day who were historians and members of groups like the "Daughters of the Confederacy" not wanting historical statues/monuments to be removed. They were undoubtedly fine people, just as some of those wanting the statues to be removed were fine people.
Thus, when Trump said that, he was not defending the bad people looking for violence on either side of the divide.
But that didn't stop some (and apparently you) from thinking he was saying some of the racist kooks were the fine people.

It also ruffled the feathers of the liberal MSM when Trump said there were bad people on both sides, when he was expected to be PC, and only call out the racists as being bad.
But unlike other feckless politicians who would be too afraid of the media, he called out the Antifa losers as well. He was then accused of supporting racists over "anti-racists", which of course was another example of fake news.
Back then Antifa were not as well known to be the criminal punks people know them as now. But video showing them using clubs, pepper spray, and attacking people and property cast them in exactly the way Trump had accurately described them as!

As to his other comment about knowing not to say something, he of course was talking about the leftist ideology that has tried to demonize and distort the term nationalism into something bad.

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Originally Posted by craigiri View Post
Bannon, Miller and buddies...and maybe she want Trump to disavow his dad being a KKK member?


I guess at this point you just want to spread news you know to be fake if you think some naive people might believe that lie.
Even the liberal Snopes says there is no proof Trump's dad was ever in the KKK. Yet you and a few others continue to perpetuate the lie/fake news.

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Originally Posted by Tom Lennox 70 View Post
Don Lemon is a complete liberal hack. Trump has never supported neo-Nazis. His comments about Charlottesville like all his controversial comments were taken out of context. When he said there were fine people on both sides he wasn't referring to fine people among the neo-Nazis, but among the Confederate monument defenders!!!

There were MANY protesters who were NOT racists or Nazis who simply were expressing Southern pride and respect for Southern history who were protesting the insane level of political correctness that caused Charlottesville to take the statues and flags down. The liberal probably believes anyone who supports the Confederate flag at all is a neo-nazi though. Their wholesale attack on Southern culture after the Charleston shooting is in clear contrast to their kid gloves with islam after multiple Islamic terrorist attacks. The liberals and the media were on a wholesale attack on Southern culture because of what Dylan Roof alone did.

I'm a person of color and the son of LEGAL immigrants and a native Southerner. The Confederate flag is the symbol of our region and our culture not slavery or racism much like the hijab is the symbol of Islam.
BINGO!

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Old 11-01-2018, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Clearly the left knows what the right is saying better than the right does
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Originally Posted by bingo3000 View Post
I'm warning Republicans here. You don't get it. The mainstream media dictates how the flow of information is spread. Yes, Republicans and some hardcore conservatives bypass the MSM for talk radio, Newsbusters, etc., but please:


Repudiate the neo-Nazis that are creeping into the GOP.


Don Lemon, Oprah, etc. are all out on force slamming the GOP.


Is Brian Kemp a white nationalist? Is Ron DeSantis a white nationalist?


My God, suburban bastions used to be Republican, but Trump is creeping these people to vote Democratic.


I'm an Independent who is still undecided about Tuesday, but my god, get the neo-nazis out of politics. Why is Steve Bannon campaigning in VA-07?
We don't have to do anything. The left's non stop screeching of "racist" and bigot" and other tirades about the right will never stop no matter what we do, so the left can stuff it.

And Don Lemon proved himself a racist. So what if he's "slamming" the GOP. So what if Oprah is or anyone in Hollywood is "slamming" the GOP. Like this is the first time it's ever happened?

How about you spend some time and energy helping the left come up with anything, any reason at all to vote for them besides, "Orange man bad!! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!"

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Originally Posted by treasurefinder View Post
Well when #45 says he is a Nationalist, and no one in the party bats an eye...
And yet another person who has no idea what a "nationalist" is, but likes to feed into the fear that it means "white supremacy!"
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Originally Posted by Ringo1 View Post
Yeah? "Very fine people ON both sides".
Yeah? Because not everyone there was a white supremacist. Not that the media wanted to tell you that, but it turns out, Trump is smarter than you because he knew that.

And "I know we're not supposed to say this" is because he knew exactly what the media would do. And they did it. Yet he still said it because he knows what the word actually means.

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Originally Posted by Clarallel View Post
Oh, I dunno. Trump supporters seem to be fine with neo-Nazis, just as they're fine with Trump's lies, fraud, ignorance, misogyny, and everything else that decent people abhor. I hope, as an Independent, you step back from the GOP until they regain their sanity again.
And yet again, you spout utter bs. "Seem to be" is not reality. Prove Trump's "lies, fraud, ignorance, misogyny, and everything else that decent people abhor" because those who hate Trump are anything but "decent people".

I hope that you realize how insane the left has become. If you aren't aware, I have a whole list of things to show you - the left is unhinged, and clearly not that bright. They can't come up with anything new, for decades, and have to go back to the same old tired bs line of 'racist', 'Nazi', 'homophobe', 'bigot', blah, blah, blah.

It didn't work in the past, it doesn't work now. And, in fact, even those who were too busy trying not to appear racist now understand that the left will call them "racist" no matter what they do. Sure worked out for Hillary to label a big chunk of this country as "deplorable", the left should keep trying that tactic.
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:11 AM
 
Location: The 719
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Originally Posted by bingo3000 View Post
I'm warning Republicans here. You don't get it. The mainstream media dictates how the flow of information is spread. Yes, Republicans and some hardcore conservatives bypass the MSM for talk radio, Newsbusters, etc., but please:


Repudiate the neo-Nazis that are creeping into the GOP.


Don Lemon, Oprah, etc. are all out on force slamming the GOP.


Is Brian Kemp a white nationalist? Is Ron DeSantis a white nationalist?


My God, suburban bastions used to be Republican, but Trump is creeping these people to vote Democratic.


I'm an Independent who is still undecided about Tuesday, but my god, get the neo-nazis out of politics. Why is Steve Bannon campaigning in VA-07?

Trump took the word Nationalist and You put the word White in front of it.

Hash.

Tag.

Thread.
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by bingo3000 View Post
I'm warning Republicans here. You don't get it. The mainstream media dictates how the flow of information is spread. Yes, Republicans and some hardcore conservatives bypass the MSM for talk radio, Newsbusters, etc., but please:


Repudiate the neo-Nazis that are creeping into the GOP.


Don Lemon, Oprah, etc. are all out on force slamming the GOP.


Is Brian Kemp a white nationalist? Is Ron DeSantis a white nationalist?


My God, suburban bastions used to be Republican, but Trump is creeping these people to vote Democratic.


I'm an Independent who is still undecided about Tuesday, but my god, get the neo-nazis out of politics. Why is Steve Bannon campaigning in VA-07?
LOL, Most voters don't give a damn about any of those names or what they stand for, so don't worry.
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:14 AM
 
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Neo-Nazis is FAKE NEWS.

There are a handful of misguided socialist idiots that have called themselves this. Its stupid. Its also less than a few dozen people in a country of 300M.

So FAKE NEWS.
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