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Old 11-04-2018, 08:25 AM
 
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The U.S has constantly been ranked among developed countries as a country where it is the most difficult for class mobility, as in if you are poor in this nation, it is harder for you to reach middle class because of the barriers placed in front of you. Other countries on the other hand, have different mechanisms in place to help you move forward economically such as affordable education, better transportation, better social programs, affordable healthcare....all the things needed to as a basic support structure that enables individuals to be all that they can be in life because there is less barriers in front of them, better shot at opportunity.

Basically, if you are born in this country, statistically, you will most likely stay poor because of the environment you are raised in that does not have the basic support structure in place needed to move ahead economically. Can't afford good schools, can't afford basic transportation, healthcare when your sick, and lack of affordable housing, etc...will restrict your ability to get ahead in life.

What Bentbow is talking about is what the right-wing media and Republican establishment wants him to think that the Left wants for people....equal outcomes. That is a false narrative. Nobody on the Left wants equal outcomes. But we do want equal opportunity, whether you are born into a poor or rich family, both groups deserve equal opportunity, for those who want it. But that's not how it works in this country. If you are rich, you have way more opportunity than a person born in poor family. You have way less barriers and a much better support structure.

All the left is trying to do is create a better support structure for those who are not rich, so that they can have a shot at opportunity too.

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Old 11-04-2018, 08:30 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I'm guessing you have a strong external locus of control by the way you post.
They didn't sound as if they agreed with equal outcomes, with the defensive attitude of the post.
How could I even suggest a thing about them. When I named no one.
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Old 11-04-2018, 08:30 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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That is a long way around, to explain you don't want equal outcomes for all.
Were you afraid to be virtue signaled, by those in charge of the box you get placed into, if you had gotten straight to the point?
Again, I don't want equal outcomes for all because I know that is impossible. Unfortunately, too many liberal/collectivist minds do not understand that it is impossible. So they continue to masturbate.
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Old 11-04-2018, 08:34 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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They didn't sound as if they agreed with equal outcomes, with the defensive attitude of the post.
How could I even suggest a thing about them. When I named no one.
I won't speak for anyone else but I've noticed you blaming anything you could label as "liberal" for your inability to get your **** together. So yes, when you post I;m assuming it's another cryfest. My bad, I shouldn't assume.
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Old 11-04-2018, 08:44 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The U.S has constantly been ranked among developed countries as a country where it is the most difficult for class mobility, as in if you are poor in this nation, it is harder for you to reach middle class because of the barriers placed in front of you. Other countries on the other hand, have different mechanisms in place to help you move forward economically such as affordable education, better transportation, better social programs, affordable healthcare....all the things needed to as a basic support structure that enables individuals to be all that they can be in life because there is less barriers in front of them, better shot at opportunity.

Basically, if you are born in this country, statistically, you will most likely stay poor because of the environment you are raised in that does not have the basic support structure in place needed to move ahead economically. Can't afford good schools, can't afford basic transportation, healthcare when your sick, and lack of affordable housing, etc...will restrict your ability to get ahead in life.

What Bentbow is talking about is what the right-wing media and Republican establishment wants him to think that the Left wants for people....equal outcomes. That is a false narrative. Nobody on the Left wants equal outcomes. But we do want equal opportunity, whether you are born into a poor or rich family, both groups deserve equal opportunity, for those who want it. But that's not how it works in this country. If you are rich, you have way more opportunity than a person born in poor family. You have way less barriers and a much better support structure. All the left is trying to do is create a better support structure for those who are not rich, so that they can have a shot at better opportunity too.



I just asked 3 simple questions, inquiring about equal outcomes.
Equal outcome is the purpose of Socialism. Cultural Marxism is based solely upon equal outcome.


Why are Cultural Marxist in America so upset, that Trump has taken equal outcomes away and shown what equal opportunities can do.


The actions of Socialism, counter the stance the left wants equal opportunity.
Equal opportunity, eliminates equal outcomes all together.
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Old 11-04-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I won't speak for anyone else but I've noticed you blaming anything you could label as "liberal" for your inability to get your **** together. So yes, when you post I;m assuming it's another cryfest. My bad, I shouldn't assume.
Wait, you are suggesting equal outcomes is a liberal thing.
I asked 3 simple questions, with no suggesting or hint of anything.
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Old 11-04-2018, 08:48 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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Wait, you are suggesting equal outcomes is a liberal thing.
I asked 3 simple questions, with no suggesting or hint of anything.
I've heard that accusation before, yes.
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Old 11-04-2018, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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No one knows what you are talking about with equal outcomes. Perhaps you should explain it.
It’s another trick question the OP likes to ask nor will it be explained yet if you don’t fully understand it and answer it wrong your an enemy of the state.
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Old 11-04-2018, 08:52 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I've heard that accusation before, yes.
But not this time, you didn't. Assuming, brings dishonesty.


I asked why do you. Not why do all.


Meaning those that don't, wouldn't waste their time to reply, or state simply they don't agree with equal outcome.
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Old 11-04-2018, 08:55 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It’s another trick question the OP likes to ask nor will it be explained yet if you don’t fully understand it and answer it wrong your an enemy of the state.
Explain the trick?
It has trapped a few, that were offended.
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