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I doubt that Speaker Pelosi is going the investigation route. She had a chance to do that in 2006 with W Bush, and she declined. Listen to her speech from this morning. She struck a very conciliatory tone. She's looking to get ahead, not get even.
Pelosi has always been a realist and pragmatist.
She knows that impeachment is just an indictment, and is meaningless without the Senate support for 2/3rd removal.
On the other hand, she'll allow the committees to do oversight when the Republican led ones refused to hold Trump accountable.
No doubt controlling the Senate is still a good thing.
But what Trump wanted was full control...and he didn't get it.
I'm not sure that the current division between the House and Senate isn't better than 'controlling' both. It is certainly more of the checks and balances intended by its formation-- and also, the will of the people.
OTOH, It actually forces the Democrats in the House to come-up with some real, legislative ideas of their own, rather than continue to do nothing, but, attack Trump as their sole agenda.
Sure, they can continue to whine and harass Trump at every turn and have a little more subpoena power. However, they can no longer hide their underhanded, anti-American obstructionism behind the "false pretense of not being able to do anything else, because the Republicans hold both the House and Senate."
Not at all. I'm not even arguing. I'm pointing out that he played his hand perfectly. He was never going to win the house. Only 3 times in 150 years has a first term president held the house.
GWB did it because of 9/11. Clinton lost it, Obama lost over 50 seats. Trump knew to let the house fall because of the long odds. Ne knew his best chance at getting anything done was to pad the Senate, which he did brilliantly.
Those hundreds of millions invested in Ohio, MI, WI, TX, FL - poof!
I'm happy all of those liberal billionaires (pretending to be for the working man) wallets are lighter.
Trump let the house fall, now that's funny.
He didn't have anything to do with the senate, they won that on their own for the most part except for Trumps genius strategy in AZ.
Largest house victory going back to Nixon aside from 2010 and people had good reason to be unhappy in with 10% unemployment. Do tell why the voters were so displeased with Trump, was it the tax cut, the economy, low unemployment, maybe the stock market
The republicans are going to be damaged goods for some time after this train wreck. Based on all economic indicators this should have been a landslide for the GOP...but then there's Trump.
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The Dems are in a pickle. Most of the new House members have run on not voting for Pelosi to be their majority leader. Guess what, they won't have a choice. They will be breaking campaign promises right out of the gate. Write it down, watch it happen.
As for the Governors and Senate, which the Pubs gained - Trump is set for 2020, he will need those Governors. His agenda will be stalled for two years as the left continue to resist. THAT is not what their constituents wanted.
BTW, with the vast majority in the Senate (+5) Trump will own the judiciary. The benches will be stacked with Constitutional/Originalist judges. The Republicans haven't had the SCOTUS and Circuit courts for 60 years. Think about that.
Pat yourselves on the back for taking the house. A battle won for sure. With the crazy lineup (Waters going after banks, the rest going for impeachment) you have set yourselves up to lose 2020, bigly.
Write it down, watch it happen.
Because there aren't the ritual deflections and push back, I can only think you're actually coming to the realization that Trump played his best hand. He got exactly what he wanted.
Sorry to be the bringer of reality.
6 more years of Trump, OMG! Be happy you took the house. Let's see if you can keep it. I doubt it. If you continue on the socialist bent, there's no way. You're destroying the Democrat party.
They only got lucky because forty-five Republican House members decided to retire at the same time. Otherwise, the Dems would not have won the House. So the left actually got in.
As it is, their penchant for violence, threats, desperation, and extremism (and many other negative things) are going to lead to Republicans winning back the House in two years. After the recent atrocities that Dems have proudly displayed, Americans are going to be sorely reminded of the past failure that party will once again become in the U.S. House.
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