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Old 11-08-2018, 07:26 PM
 
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It is becoming clearer to me that much of the division in this country is from a lack of information.

Folks come to these random theories and thoughts on what they think the opposition is asking for, instead of reading, asking, learning.

Yup -- both sides -- all issues.
Exactly! However, both sides believe they have the real truth, and only one side is right, which is why the republicans are on the right side of the political spectrum. The further away towards the left, the further away from the truth.
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:27 PM
 
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Except that corporates don’t pay taxes.
Corporations don't pay taxes?
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:28 PM
 
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A lot of conservatives claim to be for smaller government and against government handouts, but very few of them refuse to collect social security or medicare
I see that all around me, lifelong Republicans grabbing the goodies. They don't stand on principle, but it's not to be expected from them really.

Democrats promote policies for the wellbeing of the people and lifelong Republicans oppose them because 'the party' opposes them ... until they actually need them.

The Republican party is not really for smaller government, they like corporate handouts and agri-business subsidies. They just don't care about people.

Why would people vote for Democrats but pocket the tax cut happily?-republican-values.jpg

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Old 11-08-2018, 07:28 PM
 
Location: My House
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Given the length of the time you have been in the forum, one would think you can come up with a better argument than this crap.

Roads had long existed before there was government or taxation and will exist after the government cease to exist.

A simple answer to your question is toll.
And those “roads” were dirt paths.

If you want to live in Somalia, I’m pretty sure Delta is ready when you are.
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Once again, I must ask you stop assuming people are stupid.
For most people, I don't assume they're stupid. But based on what you've said so far in this thread, I'm pretty much making an exception in your case.

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The great human ingenuity has taken us to the moon, and we can’t figure out how to build roads correctly? I can think 10 different ways immediately but all you can think of is this?
LOL, you are a case. Yes, we know how to build roads correctly. We even know how to build double-decker and triple-decker roads correctly. However, there is just one problem, as I've exhaustively pointed out, and which you insist on ignoring: THOSE WOULD BE GOD-AWFUL THINGS TO HAVE IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY'S HOUSE, AND WOULD BE STUNNINGLY EXPENSIVE TO BUILD EVERYWHERE. Got it? You're simply being obtuse because you realize you've made a complete fool of yourself with your "private roads with no government" idea, because it clearly isn't going to work.

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How about everyone gets an helicopter and we don’t need no stinky roads? How about underground tunnels?
Or maybe we can invent Star Trek transporter machines so we don't need roads. Or maybe we can turn everybody into spiritual, non-corporeal beings who can go wherever they want just by blinking their eyes. Surely we won't need roads that way!

At this point you're simply coming up with increasingly bizarre, expensive and impractical ideas in a vain effort to save your idea of a libertarian utopia. Your libertarian utopia is a fantasy that isn't remotely ever going to work. If you actually decided to think it through, you might come to that conclusion. The fact that you're arguing in favor of stacked roads everywhere, or everyone having helicopters, or building tunnels everywhere, does nothing but indicate how desperate you are to save your idea of your libertarian utopia.
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Unlikely. While unsightly, and definitely an unpleasant place to live, it took money to build those roads, and libertarians are loathe to part with any of theirs for the common good.
Well, in lifeexplorer's libertarian utopia, all those stacked roads would be built by private companies, who would get the money to build them by collecting tolls.

The really, really stupid thing about that idea is that it would be VASTLY more expensive than just doing regular, government-owned roads - one level, at grade. Lifeexplorer is so fixated on his/her/its libertarian fantasy that he/she/it would prefer to pay 10 times what he/she/it currently pays for roads through taxes, JUST in order to avoid the existence of a government entity. Pretty pathetic.
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:55 PM
 
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Because they are lemmings
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:57 PM
 
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Corporations don't pay taxes?
They do? You are the one who claim people are misinformed.

You are misinformed. Try to run a business and see if you pay taxes. Taxes are all built into the price that the consumers pay.
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:58 PM
 
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And those “roads” were dirt paths.

If you want to live in Somalia, I’m pretty sure Delta is ready when you are.
Were.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:00 PM
 
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Well, in lifeexplorer's libertarian utopia, all those stacked roads would be built by private companies, who would get the money to build them by collecting tolls.

The really, really stupid thing about that idea is that it would be VASTLY more expensive than just doing regular, government-owned roads - one level, at grade. Lifeexplorer is so fixated on his/her/its libertarian fantasy that he/she/it would prefer to pay 10 times what he/she/it currently pays for roads through taxes, JUST in order to avoid the existence of a government entity. Pretty pathetic.
You forget that all the railroads were private, for example.
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