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Old 11-14-2018, 09:37 AM
 
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That still doesn't dispute the fact that gay marriage does indeed affect people who don't believe in it.
How does gay marriage affect you?

 
Old 11-14-2018, 09:41 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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No one is compelling businesses owners to start a business serving the PUBLIC.
No one can compel a private business owner to perform work for anyone else. Have you forgotten the SCOTUS ruling on the Colorado case?
 
Old 11-14-2018, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Brunswick (Gary) Indiana
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No one can compel a private business owner to perform work for anyone else. Have you forgotten the SCOTUS ruling on the Colorado case?

So once again this is a thread about cakes? Wow, who knew they were so easily offended.



 
Old 11-14-2018, 10:00 AM
 
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No one can compel a private business owner to perform work for anyone else. Have you forgotten the SCOTUS ruling on the Colorado case?
And the ruling was based on artistic creativity not discrimination in the marketplace.
 
Old 11-14-2018, 10:08 AM
 
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So once again this is a thread about cakes? Wow, who knew they were so easily offended.
It's about privately owned rental property, too. Seattle's first come, first rented to law was overturned, as well.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ed-rental-law/

I've already said Constitutional Rights supersede any state or local laws. Supremacy Clause, Article VI. There just is no getting around that without ratifying a Constitutional Amendment that negates the Supremacy Clause. But that would eliminate everyone's Constitutional Rights.
 
Old 11-14-2018, 10:11 AM
 
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This question is soooooooo June 25, 2015...….

(Seriously, why does this matter anymore?)
My thoughts exactly, some conservatives are still stubbornly stuck on decided issues that don't concern them unless they decide to engage in such activity or behavior (which they won't if they are so against it), like gay marriage or abortion.

Keeping these opinions on these settled issues won't get your party more support in the future. It will only hurt you as older people within the party die off and no longer have voting power. Most younger people don't care about issues like gay marriage. Move on, conservatives. It isn't your business, your own personal morals or religion don't run the country, and it doesn't concern you.
 
Old 11-14-2018, 10:11 AM
 
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And the ruling was based on artistic creativity not discrimination in the marketplace.
You have that a little backwards. The ruling is that discrimination in the marketplace is legal when done so in the exercising of Constitutional Rights.
 
Old 11-14-2018, 10:17 AM
 
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My thoughts exactly, some conservatives are still stubbornly stuck on decided issues that don't concern them unless they decide to engage in such activity or behavior (which they won't if they are so against it), like gay marriage or abortion.

Keeping these opinions on these settled issues won't get your party more support in the future. It will only hurt you as older people within the party die off and no longer have voting power. Most younger people don't care about issues like gay marriage. Move on, conservatives. It isn't your business, your own personal morals or religion don't run the country, and it doesn't concern you.
That attitude is a violation of several Constitutional Rights. Just to name a few: Freedom of Speech (including creative expression), Freedom of Religion, and Freedom of Association.

Good luck trying to abolish everyone's Constitutional Rights.
 
Old 11-14-2018, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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A girlfriend/boyfriend or live in is not next of kin.

I dont think the majority would agree to give up their social welfare programs, or the marriage benefits or wish to draw up private contracts to protect themselves and/or their loved one.
So, what’s the difference. Marriage as far as the government is concerned is a contract. How about those people who have no spouse to leave “their” SS benefits when they die before 66? They spent their whole lives paying into a system with no benefit to them. Social contracts should allow them to pass their benefits to a sibling, parent or friend. Marriage is just a word and a way the government wrongly promotes social engineering. Just like a business, two people could enter into a partnership. As with a business or marriage, they can dissolve the partnership. As of now, the government determines who can be partners, which is intrusive.
 
Old 11-14-2018, 10:25 AM
 
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That attitude is a violation of several Constitutional Rights. Just to name a few: Freedom of Speech (including creative expression), Freedom of Religion, and Freedom of Association.

Good luck trying to abolish everyone's Constitutional Rights.
My "attitude" is not a violation of anyone's rights because I am not the state.
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