Anyone remember when the Mueller investigation was about "illegal contacts with Russia"? (Putin, attorneys)

[wallbuilder]

Anyone remember that? "Illegal contacts during the transition period." It was the rage on MSNBC. Then they stopped talking about illegal contacts when they found out that there is no such crime as illegal contacts and incoming presidents are in fact expected to talk to foreign leaders and diplomats. Since then it's been "collusion" which is also not a crime (unless you say "collude to X" and X is a crime). In fact, top attorneys like Alan Dershowitz have said that it would be perfectly legal if Donald Trump called Putin and told him to release Hillary's emails (which obviously never happened).

The investigation is a wild goose chase.

[Joe the Photog]

So you're privy to the inner goings on of the Mueller investigation? Nice gig, if you can get it. Thanks for your opinion.

[katzpaw]

This is the legal authorization outlining the scope of Mueller's investigation.
It does not say "collusion", and has so far resulted in criminal proceedings against 33 people and 3 Russian organizations.
So... not a wild goose chase.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...el-Russia.html

ORDER NO. 3915-2017
APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL
TO INVESTIGATE RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE WITH THE
2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND RELATED MATTERS

By virtue of the authority vested in me as Acting Attorney General, including 28 U.S.C.
§§ 509, 510, and 515, in order to discharge my responsibility to provide supervision and
management of the Department of Justice, and to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the
Russian govemments efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, I hereby order as
follows:

(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice.

(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals

(i) associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(c) (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).***

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

(d) Sections 600.4 through 600. l 0 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are applicable to the Special Counsel.

*** https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.4
28 CFR 600.4 - Jurisdiction.
§ 600.4 Jurisdiction.
(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.

[phma]

No. Did it ever actually happen ?

[turkeydance]

yes.

[phma]

Originally Posted by katzpaw

This is the legal authorization outlining the scope of Mueller's investigation.
It does not say "collusion", and has so far resulted in criminal proceedings against 33 people and 3 Russian organizations.
So... not a wild goose chase.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...el-Russia.html

ORDER NO. 3915-2017
APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL
TO INVESTIGATE RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE WITH THE
2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND RELATED MATTERS

By virtue of the authority vested in me as Acting Attorney General, including 28 U.S.C.
§§ 509, 510, and 515, in order to discharge my responsibility to provide supervision and
management of the Department of Justice, and to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the
Russian govemments efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, I hereby order as
follows:

(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice.

(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals

(i) associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(c) (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).***

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

(d) Sections 600.4 through 600. l 0 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are applicable to the Special Counsel.

*** https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.4
28 CFR 600.4 - Jurisdiction.
§ 600.4 Jurisdiction.
(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.

DAG Rosenstein later made changes to that document. We know that for a fact. Tell us what changes he made. Then we will know the rest of the story.

[saltine]

Its a load of excrement. Never seen anything like it. Sorry ass losers with too much power. Should just s can it.

[Timmyy]

Originally Posted by saltine

Its a load of excrement. Never seen anything like it. Sorry ass losers with too much power. Should just s can it.

Tell us how you really feel. Butt hurt?

[katzpaw]

Originally Posted by phma

DAG Rosenstein later made changes to that document. We know that for a fact. Tell us what changes he made. Then we will know the rest of the story.

If you "know that for a fact" then show us a link.

[sickofnyc]

Originally Posted by saltine

Its a load of excrement. Never seen anything like it. Sorry ass losers with too much power. Should just s can it.

So the indictments and arrests are figments of the imagination...mass hysteria?????? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha