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Old 12-11-2018, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Shut it down permanently. It's our only hope.

 
Old 12-11-2018, 03:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by texan2yankee View Post
I do.

shut government down or build the wall.
LOL. Yeah, like that'll happen. You watch.
 
Old 12-11-2018, 03:12 PM
 
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Originally Posted by No_Recess View Post
Shut it down permanently. It's our only hope.
That and all the tariffs on China. I actually do wish they would do stuff like this. And no bailouts for those affected either! I wish Trump supporters could actually get what they wanted so they would see how much it affects them negatively.
 
Old 12-11-2018, 03:14 PM
 
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Trump doesn’t need Nancy and Chuck to pass the budget. Until January the Republicans are the majority.
Why isn’t he asking his own party to support his request? Why blame the Dems when he can’t even get his own party behind him?
 
Old 12-11-2018, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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Many Americans who don't want the government shut down, for the wall or any other reason, understand that our criminally corrupt Washington politicians will ONLY shut down the very few government programs that return a tiny portion of the money that they steal from us everyday. 95% of government is pure corruption, graft, waste, redudancy, etc, but NOT ONE PENNY OF THAT WILL BE SHUT DOWN.

If you know your American history and the information surrounding Boss Taft, you'd know that it's incredibly successful to rob a neighborhood blind, but walk around tossing quarters to the residents, and they will think you're the GREATEST, most charitable person on the earth.
 
Old 12-11-2018, 03:18 PM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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This idiot is basically like the kid who takes his toys and goes home.
 
Old 12-11-2018, 03:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
Why do you care? It's still cheaper for the taxpayer to fund the wall than to continue putting out over $100 billion a year for the social costs of illegal aliens. Did you all fail at math?


https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf
You keep posting that $100 billion claim and I'll keep giving you the link from CATO completely debunking that number as a lie.

https://www.cato.org/blog/fairs-fisc...fatally-flawed


One day you can make an argument for the wall that isn't intentionally intellectually dishonest. Until that day, I guess I will keep exposing your falsehoods for what they are for all to see.
 
Old 12-11-2018, 03:20 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Originally Posted by TEPLimey View Post
You keep posting that $100 billion claim and I'll keep giving you the link from CATO completely debunking that number as a lie.

https://www.cato.org/blog/fairs-fisc...fatally-flawed


One day you can make an argument for the wall that isn't intentionally intellectually dishonest. Until that day, I guess I will keep exposing your falsehoods for what they are for all to see.
All besides the point.... the man was elected explicitly because he was going to make Mexico pay for the wall, not us!
 
Old 12-11-2018, 03:21 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Default What Does Shutting Down the Govt Mean?

"They" keep threatening to shut down the govt, as if that's a bad thing. What does that mean?


It means "non-essential" govt services will not be offered until finding is restored. Essential services & duties of govt will continue unimpeded.


Can anybody justify why the govt EVER needs to offer services if they're not essential?
 
Old 12-11-2018, 03:21 PM
 
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All besides the point.... the man was elected explicitly because he was going to make Mexico pay for the wall, not us!
Yup. If Mexico is going to fund it rather than US taxpayers then build the wall. I think its a waste of money, but if its not my tax money I don't care one way or another if it makes people happy.
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