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Old 12-26-2018, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Houston
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No. She saying that the rights of citizens, being unearned, are illegitimate and always trumped by universal human rights. Therefore citizens have no real moral authority to enforce immigration laws against people who want to enter America illegally.
No, that’s not what she is saying. She clearly states she does not have an open borders stance.
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Old 12-26-2018, 11:30 PM
 
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The piece calls for compassionate immigration policy but not open borders. It’s not really that radical it is true the only thing we did to become citizens was to be born here. Now my wife actually had to take a test and make a vow.
We already have compassionate immigration. It's call LEGAL immigration. We accept 1 million LEGAL IMMIGRANTS a year in this country for decades, no country in the world comes close in that number plus we allow over 20 million illegals to stay here and if for some reason we have to deport them the punishment is NOTHING, you get a plane ticket paid by the American taxpayers back to your native country. Most countries in the world is a felony with jail time to enter illegally and in other countries like Mexico, it's a FELONY for a legal citizen to help an illegal citizen with shelter, food or job.

So we do have a compassion immigration policy but we need to enforce our current laws and tell the world that if you break our laws and abuse our system there will be consequences. So writer is clueless about our nation.


What they want is to give illegals a party and reward them for being here illegally and that's not going to happen.
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Old 12-26-2018, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Houston
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We already have compassionate immigration. It's call LEGAL immigration. We accept 1 million LEGAL IMMIGRANTS a year in this country for decades, no country in the world comes close in that number plus we allow over 20 million illegals to stay here and if for some reason we have to deport them the punishment is NOTHING, you get a plane ticket paid by the American taxpayers back to your native country. Most countries in the world is a felony with jail time to enter illegally and in other countries like Mexico, it's a FELONY for a legal citizen to help an illegal citizen with shelter, food or job.

So we do have a compassion immigration policy but we need to enforce our current laws and tell the world that if you break our laws and abuse our system there will be consequences. So writer is clueless about our nation.


What they want is to give illegals a party and reward them for being here illegally and that's not going to happen.
I didn’t say I agreed with her I’m just tired of puke worthy debate tactics where individuals ignore parts of an article that makes the journalists positions less radical. I suggest people read the article and decide for themselves.

You can’t have welfare and loose borders.
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Old 12-27-2018, 06:50 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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NYT writers are now telling Americans that they have no more right to live and work in America than anyone else in the world.

And nothing defines the liberal mainstream more than the NYT editorial page.

NYT: "None of Us Deserve Citizenship", by Steve Sailer - The Unz Review

None of Us Deserve Citizenship
I don't really see the point in getting upset about some left wing civil rights opinion piece in the NY Times.

Indeed the NY Times must be fairly desperate to print such pieces in the first place.
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Old 12-27-2018, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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The globalists have been running an open borders propaganda campaign for some time now. This shouldn't surprise anyone.
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Old 12-27-2018, 06:58 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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This is just a fancy way of saying:

“Illegal immigrants good, Border walls bad”
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Old 12-27-2018, 07:02 AM
 
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I guess a lot of people overlook the fact that genocide, slavery, and colonization is what has helped make every nation in the world (past or present) prosper at different points in its history.
Your hate is palpable. Go find your utopia.

By the way, genocide was not practiced, no one owned the land and to the victor go the spoils.
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Old 12-27-2018, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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Not only does birthright citizenship bestow upon us a privileged status that we haven’t earned; our nation’s unparalleled wealth and power, as well as our actual borders, lack a sturdy moral foundation. But for slavery, genocide and colonization, we would not be the wealthiest, most powerful nation in the world — in fact, our nation would not even exist.
Lizzie Warren should make this part of her acceptance speech for the 2020 DNC convention.
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Old 12-27-2018, 07:09 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Your hate is palpable. Go find your utopia.

By the way, genocide was not practiced, no one owned the land and to the victor go the spoils.
Either you are not understanding his post or I am not understanding it.

It seems to me like you are both saying “to the victor go the spoils”.
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Old 12-27-2018, 10:29 AM
 
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It’s a viewpoint...no big deal.
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