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Old 03-14-2019, 03:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
After the insecure orange adolescent gets out his veto pen, it'll go to the courts.

It's already in the courts. Lawsuits were filed the day after the NE. So far they haven't stopped it. They are not waiting on a veto. What happens in Congress and in the courts are unrelated. Congress decides whether they like the move, not whether it is legal. The courts decide whether the move is legal, not whether they like it.

 
Old 03-14-2019, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It's already in the courts. Lawsuits were filed the day after the NE. So far they haven't stopped it. They are not waiting on a veto. What happens in Congress and in the courts are unrelated. Congress decides whether they like the move, not whether it is legal. The courts decide whether the move is legal, not whether they like it.
Both houses of congress have now defeated tRump's power grab by significant margins.

The courts will now decide whether or not the constitution stands.

My bet is that they'll uphold the constitution rather than kowtow to tRump's vanity project.

"We'll see what happens."

 
Old 03-14-2019, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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It's already in the courts. Lawsuits were filed the day after the NE. So far they haven't stopped it. They are not waiting on a veto. What happens in Congress and in the courts are unrelated. Congress decides whether they like the move, not whether it is legal. The courts decide whether the move is legal, not whether they like it.
The congressional and court actions are indeed related.

Congress controls the nation's funding as a Constitutional imperative, and Congress has shown its intent now to hold to their mandate. They, not the Executive branch, just declared there are limits to the president's emergency powers. This is the very first time those powers have ever been challenged.

The court understands that the Emergency Powers Act allows any President a wide discretion as to how those powers are used. But now that Congress has clearly decided the power of the purse belongs to them, despite the discretionary power a President has, the courts will most definitely take Congress' decision into serious consideration now that limits are very clearly stated.

Congress makes the law. The Courts interpret and enforce the laws Congress makes. Such clear interpretation as Congress just delivered is beyond the court's ability to deny.

In fact, the court could well decide Trump's attempt to circumvent that law could constitute a criminal offense. He can veto it at his own peril if that's the court's decision.
 
Old 03-15-2019, 07:11 AM
exm
 
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
Both houses of congress have now defeated tRump's power grab by significant margins.

The courts will now decide whether or not the constitution stands.

My bet is that they'll uphold the constitution rather than kowtow to tRump's vanity project.

"We'll see what happens."


'Significant'? And the courts will uphold the constitution indeed. POTUS has this authority given him by Congress. Poor Gringo and TDS.
 
Old 03-15-2019, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking Stay tuned!

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'Significant'?
Yup.

Both houses.
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And the courts will uphold the constitution indeed.
Of course. And tRump's move is on VERY shaky constitutional ground.
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POTUS has this authority given him by Congress.
Congress just rebuked him yesterday. Harshly

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Poor Gringo and TDS.
Not so fast, eks.

"We'll see what happens."

So much winning.

 
Old 03-15-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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'Significant'? And the courts will uphold the constitution indeed. POTUS has this authority given him by Congress. Poor Gringo and TDS.
Note the juvenile spelling of Trump's name....tRump over and over?
 
Old 03-15-2019, 07:54 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Note the juvenile spelling of Trump's name....tRump over and over?
As opposed to Trump's juvenile name calling...over and over?

Ken
 
Old 03-15-2019, 08:15 AM
exm
 
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As opposed to Trump's juvenile name calling...over and over?

Ken

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Old 03-15-2019, 08:17 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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As opposed to Trump's juvenile name calling...over and over?

Ken
Not to mention Trumpies still to this day referring to Barack Obama as Obummer, Obarfo, Obozo, etc., etc. Then they get their panties in a bunch when somebody spells Trump as "tRump".
 
Old 03-15-2019, 08:22 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Good luck with that.
MAGA - My Attorney (and campaign manager and advisers and...) Got Arrested.
Whooooooooo's next?

I'll give you a clue - it AIN'T gonna be Hillary Clinton.



Ken
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