Air Traffic Controllers File Suit (enemy, workers, President)

[NY_refugee87]

Originally Posted by jeffdoorgunner

sears used to do that. they are almost bankrupt...……………..

Yes. Sears used to sell kit houses in the 18-1900s. The first house I lived in from newborn-5 years old was a Sears Victorian.

Sears also was complacent as the years went on.

When Amazon came around... they didn't compete with pricing. They didn't offer a significant compelling reason or advantage over online retailers.

Asinine Regulations and complacency kill...

I guarantee if I did as I proposed, designed and assembled the components for "kit cars" Ford GM etc would all point and laugh and say I cater to a niche market.
Joke would be on them. These wouldn't be fiberglass 32 roadsters or some futuristic / supercar looking vehicles...

They'd be cars and trucks that most people want as the alternative on the mainstream market is overpriced for what they are and chock full of .gov mandated equipment that arbitrarily adds cost and forwarded to we, the consumer, under the disguise of safety...

See there's more than 1 way to skin a cat...
Take for example emissions control devices. Catalytic converters do not need to be made of rare earth metals... they could be made of graphene and other engineered materials that result in the same function...

Traction control? Stability control? ABS? 87 airbags?
Those don't have to be standard features. I don't want them. I know alot of other people who don't want them either. They should be optional. If you want them pay for them.

Look at the price of new vehicles today.
It isn't even remotely comparable even with inflation accounted for to just 20 30 years ago...

When a half ton chit box work truck is 40k dollars... there's a problem... a big problem.
When a "mid sized" sedan is starting at low to mid 30s...
There's a problem.

I would bring something to market that with labor for assembly would be 20k tops. But that's only because it isn't chock full of .gov mandatory features.
Air bags aren't cheap. 5 point harnesses are...
Developing and testing stability and traction control isn't cheap either.

[Jimrob1]

I wouldn't want to fly with this going on. Personally I think after this weekend, all Federal Employees should consider. Walking off the job. I don't see continuing allowing yourself to be treated this way. Would be the right thing to do.

We have a completely dysfunctional Govt, and ATC experienced how cruel it can be under Reagan. At this point though Enough is Enough. File suits. If they don't work, and this is going on and on. Then Walk Out.

[PullMyFinger]

Snowflakes. Privatize AT Control.

[AlongTheI-5]

If we privatize air traffic control, who do we sue when planes collide?

[Sharpydove]

Originally Posted by PullMyFinger

Snowflakes. Privatize AT Control.

Won’t happen, but there would still be government oversight if it did.

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by Jimrob1

I wouldn't want to fly with this going on. Personally I think after this weekend, all Federal Employees should consider. Walking off the job. I don't see continuing allowing yourself to be treated this way. Would be the right thing to do.

What about the air traveller are they the enemy now?

Originally Posted by Jimrob1

We have a completely dysfunctional Govt, and ATC experienced how cruel it can be under Reagan. At this point though Enough is Enough. File suits. If they don't work, and this is going on and on. Then Walk Out.

And yes govt is dysfunctional, and once recognized, why would anyone want govt to be involved in something critical?

[mkpunk]

Originally Posted by Jimrob1

I wouldn't want to fly with this going on. Personally I think after this weekend, all Federal Employees should consider. Walking off the job. I don't see continuing allowing yourself to be treated this way. Would be the right thing to do.

We have a completely dysfunctional Govt, and ATC experienced how cruel it can be under Reagan. At this point though Enough is Enough. File suits. If they don't work, and this is going on and on. Then Walk Out.

The difference here is Trump cannot pull a Reagan against striking workers during the government shutdown. The government is not allowed to hire or fire during a government shutdown. Trump cannot fire the essential employees so Reaganing air traffic controllers won't happen at least until the government opens up.

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by mkpunk

The difference here is Trump cannot pull a Reagan against striking workers during the government shutdown. The government is not allowed to hire or fire during a government shutdown. Trump cannot fire the essential employees so Reaganing air traffic controllers won't happen at least until the government opens up.

If Air Traffic controllers and other essential employees walked off the job Trump would probably have no recourse.

[JAMS14]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

What about the air traveller are they the enemy now?

Are the air traffic controllers the enemy? How about the other 800,000 workers being forced into unpaid servitude to the president? What did they do to warrant this punishment?

[GotHereQuickAsICould]

Originally Posted by Sharpydove

Won’t happen, but there would still be government oversight if it did.

How does government oversight of corporations generally work out?