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Old 01-13-2019, 09:08 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by KayAnn246 View Post
Wishful thinking.

Reading this opinion piece(listing facts that took place) brings the possibility of collusion, obstruction, and conspiracy together.

Here are 18 reasons Trump could be a Russian asset

On Friday, the New York Times reported that “in the days after President Trump fired James B. Comey as F.B.I. director, law enforcement officials became so concerned by the president’s behavior that they began investigating whether he had been working on behalf of Russia against American interests.” That investigation may well be continuing under the auspices of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III. We don’t know what Mueller has learned. But we can look at the key, publicly available evidence that both supports and undercuts this explosive allegation.

Here is some of the evidence suggesting “Individual 1” could be a Russian “asset”:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.2920b67920b7
That is congresses job, starting Nov. 9, 2016. When Trump became President-Elect.
Internal coup withing the Executive Branch, like someone or group is overthrowing a duly elected President.
Yates fired
McCabe fired.
Comey fired
Strock fired
Baker fired
Page resigned.
Ohr reassigned to the mail room.
Why was Brennen passing Harry Reid documents and not to the congressional oversight?
Why was congressional oversight not notified Trump was being investigated, but Obama was?
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:13 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The FBI doesn't just arbitrarily pick somebody to investigate. They have their reasons. Doesn't matter what you or I or anyone else thinks. There are a couple of investigations going on and we'll all just have to wait to see what they turn up.
Only congress has the power to investigate the executive.
If the Executive branch employees are spying on the elected President, that is Sedition.. Espionage.
Samantha Powers unmasked 30,000 Americans
Susan Rice had a spread sheet of all Trumps communications.
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:18 PM
 
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Only congress has the power to investigate the executive.
If the Executive branch employees are spying on the elected President, that is Sedition.. Espionage.
Samantha Powers unmasked 30,000 Americans
Susan Rice had a spread sheet of all Trumps communications.
Deep State again? Denial?
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:20 PM
 
Location: At mah house
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I'd also like to point out that absent concrete and material proof -- the kind of proof one could just leave on the table and walk away -- it's pretty insane for the FBI or DOJ to open a file on the President of the United States. Not just Donald J. Trump; the President.



Trump has many many detractors in the media who are willing to soft-sell this as just prudence and on the part of the Intelligence community and federal law enforcement just doing their jobs, but I think Americans need to take this much more seriously than that.



Unless Trump made some explicit comments about working with the Kremlin in order to win, I'm not buying the reasoning that his comments bothered them so that they had to start an investigation into The President of the United States.



This whole thing reeks of retaliation because Trump won't say and do what he's told. It's like that time when Putin(?) got re-elected and Trump called to congratulate him. His briefing papers said something like, "Do Not Congratulate Putin", but he did it anyway, and then someone leaked them to the press.
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:33 PM
 
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I'd also like to point out that absent concrete and material proof -- the kind of proof one could just leave on the table and walk away -- it's pretty insane for the FBI or DOJ to open a file on the President of the United States. Not just Donald J. Trump; the President.



Trump has many many detractors in the media who are willing to soft-sell this as just prudence and on the part of the Intelligence community and federal law enforcement just doing their jobs, but I think Americans need to take this much more seriously than that.



Unless Trump made some explicit comments about working with the Kremlin in order to win, I'm not buying the reasoning that his comments bothered them so that they had to start an investigation into The President of the United States.



This whole thing reeks of retaliation because Trump won't say and do what he's told. It's like that time when Putin(?) got re-elected and Trump called to congratulate him. His briefing papers said something like, "Do Not Congratulate Putin", but he did it anyway, and then someone leaked them to the press.
The evidence is required before an FBI investigation is opened. I believe some Individual 1 supporters are simply in denial because they are embarrassed that they voted for a treasonous Russian puppet.

Here is a few telltale signed that are actions of Individual 1-

Trump encouraged the Russians to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails on July 27, 2016 (“Russia, if you’re listening”), on the very day that Russian intelligence hackers tried to attack Clinton’s personal and campaign servers. How do you explain that?

There were, according to the Moscow Project, “101 contacts between Trump’s team and Russia linked operatives,” and “the Trump team tried to cover up every single one of them.” The most infamous of these contacts was the June 9, 2016, meeting at Trump Tower between the Trump campaign high command and a Kremlin emissary promising dirt on Clinton. Donald Trump Jr.’s reaction to the offer of Russian assistance? “If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.”

The Trump campaign was full of individuals, such as Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates and Michael Flynn, with suspiciously close links to Moscow

Manafort, who ran the Trump campaign for free and was heavily in debt to a Russian oligarch, now admits to offering his Russian business partner, who is suspected of links to Russian intelligence, polling data that could have been used to target the Russian social media campaign on behalf of Trump.

Trump associate Roger Stone, who was in contact with Russian conduit WikiLeaks, reportedly knew in advance that the Russians had hacked Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails. (Stone has denied it .)

Once in office, Trump fired Comey to stop the investigation of the “Russia thing” — and then bragged about having done so to the Russian ambassador and foreign minister while also sharing with them top-secret information. Later, Trump fired Attorney General Jeff Sessions because he would not end the special counsel investigation that resulted after the firing of Comey.
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:44 PM
 
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The evidence is required before an FBI investigation is opened. I believe some Individual 1 supporters are simply in denial because they are embarrassed that they voted for a treasonous Russian puppet.

Here is a few telltale signed that are actions of Individual 1-

Trump encouraged the Russians to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails on July 27, 2016 (“Russia, if you’re listening”), on the very day that Russian intelligence hackers tried to attack Clinton’s personal and campaign servers. How do you explain that?

There were, according to the Moscow Project, “101 contacts between Trump’s team and Russia linked operatives,” and “the Trump team tried to cover up every single one of them.” The most infamous of these contacts was the June 9, 2016, meeting at Trump Tower between the Trump campaign high command and a Kremlin emissary promising dirt on Clinton. Donald Trump Jr.’s reaction to the offer of Russian assistance? “If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.”

The Trump campaign was full of individuals, such as Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates and Michael Flynn, with suspiciously close links to Moscow

Manafort, who ran the Trump campaign for free and was heavily in debt to a Russian oligarch, now admits to offering his Russian business partner, who is suspected of links to Russian intelligence, polling data that could have been used to target the Russian social media campaign on behalf of Trump.

Trump associate Roger Stone, who was in contact with Russian conduit WikiLeaks, reportedly knew in advance that the Russians had hacked Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails. (Stone has denied it .)

Once in office, Trump fired Comey to stop the investigation of the “Russia thing” — and then bragged about having done so to the Russian ambassador and foreign minister while also sharing with them top-secret information. Later, Trump fired Attorney General Jeff Sessions because he would not end the special counsel investigation that resulted after the firing of Comey.
Good summary. And don't forget that one of Manafort's previous jobs was as the campaign manager for a Ukranian president who turned out to be secretly working for... wait for it... Putin and the Kremlin.
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:49 PM
 
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Good summary. And don't forget that Manafort's previous job was as the campaign manager for a Ukranian president who turned out to be secretly working for... wait for it... Putin and the Kremlin.
Trump has praised Putin (“a strong leader”) while trashing just about everyone else from grade-B Hollywood celebrities to leaders of allied nations. Trump even praised Putin for expelling U.S. diplomats and, notwithstanding instruction from his aides (“DO NOT CONGRATULATE”), congratulated Putin on winning a rigged reelection.

Remember Individual 1 calling athletes SOB's but he won't denounce Putin for his meddling in the elections.
He called a pornstar "horseface" and a US reporter "stupid". But he is soft on Putin in Helsinki. Most Americans don't have FBI training and we can see that he is a traitor. If he wasn't, why would Individual 1, his circle and his family all LIE about RUSSIA?
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:17 PM
 
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Trump has praised Putin (“a strong leader”) while trashing just about everyone else from grade-B Hollywood celebrities to leaders of allied nations. Trump even praised Putin for expelling U.S. diplomats and, notwithstanding instruction from his aides (“DO NOT CONGRATULATE”), congratulated Putin on winning a rigged reelection.
And how could anyone imagine that the President works for his aides?
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:20 PM
 
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why would Individual 1, his circle and his family all LIE about RUSSIA?
All the lies and story changes really are the biggest red flag. Innocent people simply don't do that.
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:27 PM
 
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And how could anyone imagine that the President works for his aides?
The president has advisors that are considered aides.
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