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The part most don't realize is that if this goes 30 days, all the furloughed employees can be permanently laid off. Since we can see that most of these non-essential employees, really are non-essential, it might make a lot of sense to let them go.
Trump's shutdown trap?
"Has President Trump suckered Democrats and the Deep State into a trap that will enable a radical downsizing of the federal bureaucracy? In only five more days of the already "longest government shutdown in history" (25 days and counting, as of today), a heretofore obscure threshold will be reached, enabling permanent layoffs of bureaucrats furloughed 30 days or more.
Don't believe me that federal bureaucrats can be laid off? Well, in bureaucratese, a layoff is called a RIF – a Reduction in Force – and of course, it comes with a slew of civil service protections. But, if the guidelines are followed, bureaucrats can be laid off – as in no more job. It is all explained by Michael Roberts here (updated after the beginning of the partial shutdown):
A reduction in force is a thoughtful and systematic elimination of positions. For all practical purposes, a government RIF is the same thing as a layoff. ...
Organizations must stick to predetermined criteria when sorting out what happens to each employee. They must communicate with employees how and why decisions are made. ...
In deciding who stays and who goes, federal agencies must take four factors into account:
1. Tenure
2. Veteran status
3. Total federal civilian and military service
4. Performance
Agencies cannot use RIF procedures to fire bad employees.
A lot of procedures must be followed, and merit ("performance") is the last consideration, but based on the criteria above, employees already furloughed can be laid off ("RIFed") once they have been furloughed for 30 days or 22 work days:
When agencies furlough employees for more than 30 calendar days or 22 discontinuous work days, they must use RIF procedures.
An employee can be terminated or moved into an available position"
The lawsuits are going to be infamous and expensive from this shutdown. You can RIF anyone at anytime. You don't need a shutdown to do it. Just get a political appointee to institute a RIF. We all know about RIFs, no need to regurgitate something. They can also be quickly recalled off the RIF. Again, this is all just going to cost the government far more money than it needed to when it's all said and done.
The lawsuits are going to be infamous and expensive from this shutdown. You can RIF anyone at anytime. You don't need a shutdown to do it. Just get a political appointee to institute a RIF. We all know about RIFs, no need to regurgitate something. They can also be quickly recalled off the RIF. Again, this is all just going to cost the government far more money than it needed to when it's all said and done.
I say bring on the lawsuits. It's cheaper than carrying all the dead weight.
The part most don't realize is that if this goes 30 days, all the furloughed employees can be permanently laid off. Since we can see that most of these non-essential employees, really are non-essential, it might make a lot of sense to let them go.
Trump's shutdown trap?
"Has President Trump suckered Democrats and the Deep State into a trap that will enable a radical downsizing of the federal bureaucracy? In only five more days of the already "longest government shutdown in history" (25 days and counting, as of today), a heretofore obscure threshold will be reached, enabling permanent layoffs of bureaucrats furloughed 30 days or more.
Don't believe me that federal bureaucrats can be laid off? Well, in bureaucratese, a layoff is called a RIF – a Reduction in Force – and of course, it comes with a slew of civil service protections. But, if the guidelines are followed, bureaucrats can be laid off – as in no more job. It is all explained by Michael Roberts here (updated after the beginning of the partial shutdown):
A reduction in force is a thoughtful and systematic elimination of positions. For all practical purposes, a government RIF is the same thing as a layoff. ...
Organizations must stick to predetermined criteria when sorting out what happens to each employee. They must communicate with employees how and why decisions are made. ...
In deciding who stays and who goes, federal agencies must take four factors into account:
1. Tenure
2. Veteran status
3. Total federal civilian and military service
4. Performance
Agencies cannot use RIF procedures to fire bad employees.
A lot of procedures must be followed, and merit ("performance") is the last consideration, but based on the criteria above, employees already furloughed can be laid off ("RIFed") once they have been furloughed for 30 days or 22 work days:
When agencies furlough employees for more than 30 calendar days or 22 discontinuous work days, they must use RIF procedures.
An employee can be terminated or moved into an available position"
lol pity for IRS agents, thats a good one. The same compassionate agents that send out letters threatening to empty your bank account, garnish your wages, throw you in jail, etc, and actually not only threaten but do all of the above,no matter how dire your situation might be.
They're doing their job, collecting taxes. It's not a personal jab at you if they come after you for tax evasion. Pay your taxes and you won't have any of those issues.
How is it that they have no money to pay workers that have nothing to do with this problem but yet there is money to pay those who caused it? Politicians aren't paid with government money? Money for essential workers simply materializes?
We will re-elect these bozo's because we are so afraid the "other" bozo might win.
How is it that they have no money to pay workers that have nothing to do with this problem but yet there is money to pay those who caused it?
Some have voluntarily given up taking their salary. Nearly all of them are independently wealthy. The net worth of average House member is 1 million, 3 million for a Senator. It's largely symbolic gesture for most of them even if they all gave it up.
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