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Old 01-24-2019, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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It gets hot in Australia? Who knew?

 
Old 01-24-2019, 08:58 AM
 
Location: USA
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Sadly it is real but the solutions are not solutions. There purpose is wealth transfer
Yep, the Paris accord crippled us and gave China a break to pollute until 2030, and gave millions of US dollars to 3rd world countries. Real solution. They should of saved all the Jet fuel they, and the rock stars wasted.
 
Old 01-24-2019, 08:58 AM
 
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Global warming is real. The people who decry it know that it is real, and exposing their interests also.
If it’s real it’s a natural cycle of this billions of years old planet. Deep sea ocean vents combined with all that ocean water=the best climate balancer in the galaxy. CO2 in the air is insignificant.
 
Old 01-24-2019, 09:00 AM
 
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The highest maximum temperature was recorded as 50.7 °C (123.3 °F) at Oodnadatta on 2 January 1960, which is the highest official temperature recorded in Australia.
 
Old 01-24-2019, 01:05 PM
 
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Australia was inhabited 60,000 years before Europeans arrived. That is 60,000 years of adaptation to the heat and drought. Many aborigines expect the settlers will die or leave and they get their land back. They may see more waves of immigrants from India, Indonesia, China, etc. For the heat intolerant, Antarctica is starting to become habitable.
 
Old 01-24-2019, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Australia was inhabited 60,000 years before Europeans arrived. That is 60,000 years of adaptation to the heat and drought. Many aborigines expect the settlers will die or leave and they get their land back. They may see more waves of immigrants from India, Indonesia, China, etc. For the heat intolerant, Antarctica is starting to become habitable.
Aborigines, Indians etc, are no more suited to dealing with heat and drought, than the settlers from Europe are.

Adaptation to strong sunlight is the only real difference, and that is easily mitigated.
 
Old 01-24-2019, 02:52 PM
 
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Aborigines, Indians etc, are no more suited to dealing with heat and drought, than the settlers from Europe are.

Adaptation to strong sunlight is the only real difference, and that is easily mitigated.
Oh good lawd. The aboriginal people work beautifully with the harsh bush conditions in Australia and have for 10s of thousands of years. It’s the European style agriculture that’s always struggled mightily with the heat and drought. Of course it never occurred to settlers to study and understand how the aboriginal people have lived harmoniously here for eons. Farmers are enduring a record drought here in NSW and in Queensland, temperatures are through the roof, and bush communities are in peril. In other words, life in the outback as goes on, but it’s getting worse and worse. We really need to figure out how to adapt better. Like the indigenous people did. And quick, because it’s only getting hotter and drier.

Livestock dying by the millions and people losing their livelihoods are not “easily mitigated”.
 
Old 01-24-2019, 03:06 PM
 
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Australia was inhabited 60,000 years before Europeans arrived. That is 60,000 years of adaptation to the heat and drought. Many aborigines expect the settlers will die or leave and they get their land back. They may see more waves of immigrants from India, Indonesia, China, etc. For the heat intolerant, Antarctica is starting to become habitable.
No one’s leaving Australia. The heat on coast (where 95% of people live) is mitigated by ocean breeze. There are definitely issues in Sydney as the city spreads west, where at the moment, this summer, temps are reaching 45 degrees C on a regular basis. The trick is to get our energy production more efficient. There’s resistance to more sustainable energy by the usual right wing suspects, but air conditioning is not a luxury here. At the moment energy is bafflingly expensive. In a place where copious amounts of sunshine is the norm, solar should be the go to in all new housing. It isn’t.

There’s no way in the world Aussies are leaving this land. Not happening. Despite the harshness of the (summer) climate, quality of life here is second to none.
 
Old 01-24-2019, 03:14 PM
 
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Oh good lawd. The aboriginal people work beautifully with the harsh bush conditions in Australia and have for 10s of thousands of years. It’s the European style agriculture that’s always struggled mightily with the heat and drought. Of course it never occurred to settlers to study and understand how the aboriginal people have lived harmoniously here for eons. Farmers are enduring a record drought here in NSW and in Queensland, temperatures are through the roof, and bush communities are in peril. In other words, life in the outback as goes on, but it’s getting worse and worse. We really need to figure out how to adapt better. Like the indigenous people did. And quick, because it’s only getting hotter and drier.

Livestock dying by the millions and people losing their livelihoods are not “easily mitigated”.
Aborigines dramatically changed the landscape and fauna, they weren't any sort of guardians of the environment, only of their lifestyle.

Simple hunter gathering with the reduced lifespan it offers, might work for a few hundred thousand people, but it's not going to feed the nation, or allow it to export food.

Aborigines haven't really got anything to teach modern Australia about agriculture -agriculture in Australia is about working with the resources at hand, and balancing the bad years against the good.
 
Old 01-24-2019, 03:18 PM
 
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So what is the solution? Drive an electric vehicle that is recharged with energy from a coal burning power plant? Tax us until we wish we were never born? It seems every solution offered by the left is either impractical, painful, or most often, both.
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