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Old 02-03-2019, 01:24 PM
 
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The only thing I did in my OP was to refer to the Marxist media. There is no question they are pushing a Marxist agenda.
Do you even know what the Marxist agenda is? I don't want Limbaugh's or Hannity's version either.

 
Old 02-03-2019, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Well, we do have to insert some truth when there is a lot of non-truth out there. I don't normally bash Christians, but when I see misinformation out there, I just gotta say something.
It's not true Christians, it's hypocrites. If people like the OP were a Christian, he'd be advocating for healthcare for all people, not bragging about how little he pays because he sits his ass on a pew on Sundays and saying "sucks for you" to those of other faiths or no faith when they get sick and can't afford care. Or even other Christians with pre-existing conditions.

Read Jesus's words. I guarantee you that if he came back today he would stay as far from these types as possible. They are the antithesis of what he taught.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 01:27 PM
 
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Ugh. Keep your Christian B.S. - all of it.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 01:28 PM
 
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I agree that things like birth control pills and general checkups should not have to be covered by insurance. They are not expensive or treating a disease (unless bc is used to treat symptoms of a disorder, then it should be covered). I pay plenty for my maintenance meds which went OTC and are no longer covered. I am not sure about Viagra. ED may or may not be a true medical condition.
I think general checkups and preventative maintenance should be paid for. It's the old ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure philosophy. If it were made easier for people to get routine checkups perhaps some diseases may be able to be caught early.

I always found it funny that companies like Hobby Lobby don't want to pay for birth control, but have no problem paying for Viagra.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 01:30 PM
 
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We know the Democrat Party has become godless in recent years, but since when do the actions of some dictate what is morally right? And Trump was a Democrat previously, so...….
No, we don't "know" anything of the sort. There are good people and not so good people. Period.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 01:32 PM
 
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It is. But if you aren't married, you shouldn't be having sex anyway.
I bet there is no one who is unmarried in your little co-op having sex. LOL>
 
Old 02-03-2019, 01:34 PM
 
Location: London
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There are no risks of unshared expenses. The Christian aspect is what causes the whole process to work. It reduces fraud, which is the biggie. Few practicing Christians lie and defraud. That's why secular companies couldn't get away with Samaritan's model. Simply put, the irreligious are far more likely to lie.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...65176513004126

Looking through this, religious people are shown to be somewhat more likely to be dishonest for financial gain.

And as for general altruism...

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...less-altruism/
 
Old 02-03-2019, 01:38 PM
 
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I think general checkups and preventative maintenance should be paid for. It's the old ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure philosophy. If it were made easier for people to get routine checkups perhaps some diseases may be able to be caught early.

I always found it funny that companies like Hobby Lobby don't want to pay for birth control, but have no problem paying for Viagra.
To be fair it was just the abortifacient types of bc they refused to cover, there were only a few. ED, depending on age and cause could be a true medical condition, like vaginal atrophy. I think they both should be covered. In fact one of the "treatments" or preventions for vaginal atrophy is to have sex (use it or lose it) so the man gets the Viagra which helps both of them and everyone is happy.

Yes checkups are good to have, but some people think it isn't really "insurance" if they have to cover maintenance, even if it is smart and saves money in the long run.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 01:42 PM
 
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Forced gay marriage, Force payment of a half billion dollars annually to the abortion mills, forcing people to pay for immoral birth control through health care, forcing people to pay for tranny operations forcing businesses to have separate bathrooms for those who say they indentify as the opposite sex....the list goes on and on
Romans 13:1 says. "Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." So are you begrudging the governing authorities that God has established according to this scripture? Matthew 22:21 says, ""Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's." I would think you'd be happy to follow the scriptures if you're a true Christian. Those scriptures tell me if you don't like the law of the land, maybe you should take it up with God.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 01:43 PM
 
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I think general checkups and preventative maintenance should be paid for. It's the old ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure philosophy. If it were made easier for people to get routine checkups perhaps some diseases may be able to be caught early.

I always found it funny that companies like Hobby Lobby don't want to pay for birth control, but have no problem paying for Viagra.
Most all Fundie religions (or fundie divisions within a religion) are male-centrist. In the case of the American brand, many are strongly that way - like "you came from my rib and must do what I say, have sex whenever I say and always consider me above you"....

"He states that they cannot teach or have authority over men. Thus, they cannot have a pastoral position, or perform the pastoral function, for that puts them in authority over men."

"The wife is to submit to her husband"

And stuff like that. Actually, the same is evident in Islam and even Hindu and Judaism....but since the majority of Americans don't practice religion (don't attend church, etc. weekly) many of us find these ideals somewhat old-fashioned. I can understand the idea back in the olden days, but not when Women are scientists, pilots, military leaders, etc.
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