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Old 02-06-2019, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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And I grew up in Alabama and West Virginia! I didn't see anyone in blackface either!
Lifelong Alabamian who grew up in the 70's and 80's...never once did I see anyone in blackface. That particular poster is making up horse **** lies to denigrate southern folks.
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:52 AM
 
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Do you think if the dems are given a pass on this one that they'll return the favor if the situation comes up again in the reverse? No, they will simply say "well this time it's different" and continue on with their crusade. At some point they've got to realize that all this tactic of digging 30 years in to people's past for dirt is doing is tearing apart the cohesion of our society. It's time for them to back off on this crap. Maybe making them realize that they're wielding a double edged sword will help them realize it more quickly.

But you're not entirely wrong. If Northam goes down we get to eat popcorn and watch dems get hoisted by their own petard, and if he gets away with it we'll have a precedent to point to next time they try this on another republican. It looks like a win/win from my seat in the bleachers.
It is not a question of "getting away with it". You have just provided a great example of conceding their false premise.

The issue is not whether this guys wore blackface to a party 35 years ago. This issue is 1) whether the Democrats can use this kind of silly sh__ to attack and destroy their political opponents, and 2) trying to silence the controversy about the governor's infanticide remarks.

Since they are looking to marginalize Northam for the infanticide remarks anyway, but do not want to be seen attacking him for that, how much better to blame it on these silly party pictures from the 1980's.

Like you said, this practice of going back 35 to 40 years with the expectation that they can socially ruin people who failed to comply with their vile "Political correctness" agenda, even back then, is the problem here. We must treat that as the problem and not inadvertently enable the continuation of this scourge, just because some of us are inclined to be perhaps a little bit short sighted and impulsive, Pogue Mohone.
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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IMO, the hypocritical, politically correct notion that every second of an individual's life must be perfect - and should be subject to the scrutiny and moral judgment of every political opponent, robs America of good potential leaders. Many/most have not lived perfect lives and don't want their families dragged through the mud over a youthful indiscretion.

Having said that, I despise the Governor's recent position on killing infants after delivery, abhor true racism - and am, in a sense, glad to see a democrat actually held to the same standard as Republicans -- by the left. Still, I don't think many could (or should have to) stand-up to this type of narrow, over-the-top, career destroying, righteous indignation over a 30+-year old college 'prank.'
Maybe as it drifts into the theater of the absurd as it has of late, people will stop politicking over it and judge the person on their more current behavior and the arc of their lives. We can't go on destroying people for youthful indiscretions especially when their behavior was not considered taboo at the time.
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:53 AM
 
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Well, I guess it is time, once again, to hear from the great Howard Stern and the late Petey Green on this topic:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCFN3RrfaUk
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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then you should be more upset than most by the democrat-sponsored PC/SJW lunacy that triggered this whole mess.
I am, and I don't think the Governor should have to resign.

I can't support the GOP currently because of their rejection of science and facts, but the SJW subculture of the Dems is really turning me off.
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I think that all 15 year olds should enter a time machine and go forward about 15 years, to find out if the future them is interested in a career in politics. If so, they should go forward another 25 years to find out what is and is not socially acceptable, according to the SJWs of the world (or whatever they'll be called in the future), so that they can then return to their 15-year-old selves and make sure that they do or don't do whatever is necessary to avoid offending anybody when they are in their mid-50s and entering the heights of their political careers.

Not that it'll matter. Using a time machine will probably be considered "racist" by then.
Great post that illustrates the absurdity of this whole thing.
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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It is not a question of "getting away with it". You have just provided a great example of conceding their false premise.

The issue is not whether this guys wore blackface to a party 35 years ago. This issue is 1) whether the Democrats can use this kind of silly sh__ to attack and destroy their political opponents, and 2) trying to silence the controversy about the governor's infanticide remarks.

Since they are looking to marginalize Northam for the infanticide remarks anyway, but do not want to be seen attacking him for that, how much better to blame it on these silly party pictures from the 1980's.

Like you said, this practice of going back 35 to 40 years with the expectation that they can socially ruin people who failed to comply with their vile "Political correctness" agenda, even back then, is the problem here. We must treat that as the problem and not inadvertently enable the continuation of this scourge, just because some of us are inclined to be perhaps a little bit short sighted and impulsive, Pogue Mohone.
It doesn't matter how false the premise is when it's doing real damage.

Of course the issue is the vile tactics...the question is how do you best get them to see how destructive and counterproductive it can be? They don't care what it does to the country as long as they feel it gives them an advantage. They have to see that they can be hurt by it too. Keeping in mind that they have no problem being complete hypocrites about it, do you know of a better way to get them to realize their folly?
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:09 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Maybe as it drifts into the theater of the absurd as it has of late, people will stop politicking over it and judge the person on their more current behavior and the arc of their lives. We can't go on destroying people for youthful indiscretions especially when their behavior was not considered taboo at the time.
maybe then megyn kelly, who i don't even particularly like, can get her job back after being fired for merely questioning when and why it became 'racist' for a white person to dress up as Diana ross for Halloween.
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Starting a walkabout
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This blackface business is part of southern culture like the stars and bars. It's what they do when they party. We can't kick people out in VA for doing this when they were kids. Won't be anyone left.

It is never a Southern thing.


You are making all this up only because it is one democrat after another who is now being revealed as a racist and you don't want the leadership to go to the republicans. if it had been the republicans doing it you will be braying for their blood.


BTW, it was not as if they were children. The governor was a 25 year old physician when he did it. He should have known better.
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:15 AM
 
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Apparently it is just as bad. Besides the photo or Northam, people are outraged about his dressing up like Michael Jackson for a dance competition. It doesn't matter your intent--like if you are honoring an entertainer because you like them so much. It just cannot be done.



Unfortunately college kids in the 80s didn't think much about that. There were tons of white kids dressing up as Michael Jackson and Prince in the 1980s.
Well if he got nailed on that, there are 10s of 1000s of young white kids in my area, that go out of their way to try to 'speak black' and 'dress black'...they are doing the same thing, they are just trying to be like their favorite rappers, if we are going to start calling people out for this, it needs to apply to all these young kids too.
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