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Old 02-26-2019, 08:41 PM
 
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I was responding largely to your post here:

I mean, yeah, she worked, and undoubtedly she worked hard at her business, and employed people as you said. But the main reason she was able to do that was because she had a rich and famous father. If she didn't, she probably wouldn't have been lucky enough to start a business like that, employing people and more than likely would have waited tables and been a bartender. In which case there wouldn't be as much for people to brag about for her.
Not bragging about her, pointing to what it is. How she got there and why is moot, fact is she has engaged in business and has employed people, and she basically has grown up in such environment. Saying "if she was this, then she would be that" can apply to everyone in the world. If LeBron James got hit by a car and his leg shattered in HS, he would not be one of the greatest players of all time. If Bill Gates grew up in an abusive, meth addict home, he most likely would not be where he is at today.

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if daddy gave me a million i could hire 100 people so what! part of the republican poor little rich people mythology is to re-name them as "job-creators" its all spin doctor stuff and some of us are hip to all that BS....
So, someone employing someone is bad now? Why does the person being employed care how the boss got their start? My former boss inherited his company from his father, you think I gave a care about it? Hell no, I got a job, it was a great job, got promoted a few times, and they even paid for my MBA. But hey, according to you, boss was the bad guy.

Clear you also have zero concept of business, you think jobs just fall out from the sky, or even worse, the government is suppose to give them. But hey, AOC is employing people now, using tax dollars of course, lol.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:42 PM
 
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I can support a Universal Basic Income for people unwilling to work but it should require a will to do other things and it should be something like $5/day. Nobody should get free money

there have been studies and studies for years..not sure exactly what conclusions are now...but i am willing to bet they point to a type of say CCC ...the CCC planted billions of trees...cant get any greener than that!
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:44 PM
 
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so by having access to millions of dollars in daddies loans from some German bank and the ability to distribute that cash in the form of "jobs" makes anybody connected to a billion dollars even if just by being born into the cash more of person than any "poor" person...i get it the old dollars and sense
Well yes, it does make someone more of an asset to employment and the economy, than a poor person.

Who do you work for? What is the salary of the highest official in the company? The 15 highest officials? Small business? What does the owner make? What are the clients' salaries?

You seem to think that if someone is handed a million, they just employ people until it is all gone, ignoring the fact they establish a business that continues to operate and make a profit to pay its employees.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Neither of these women seem to have experience in any environment other than large cities/urban environments. What they lack is understanding manufacturing, construction, power supply and generation, farming, mining, etc. In other words, the real world where the things they eat and use. They also seem to have little experience with poor and lower class.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:50 PM
 
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Not bragging about her, pointing to what it is. How she got there and why is moot, fact is she has engaged in business and has employed people, and she basically has grown up in such environment. Saying "if she was this, then she would be that" can apply to everyone in the world. If LeBron James got hit by a car and his leg shattered in HS, he would not be one of the greatest players of all time. If Bill Gates grew up in an abusive, meth addict home, he most likely would not be where he is at today.



So, someone employing someone is bad now? Why does the person being employed care how the boss got their start? My former boss inherited his company from his father, you think I gave a care about it? Hell no, I got a job, it was a great job, got promoted a few times, and they even paid for my MBA. But hey, according to you, boss was the bad guy.

Clear you also have zero concept of business, you think jobs just fall out from the sky, or even worse, the government is suppose to give them. But hey, AOC is employing people now, using tax dollars of course, lol.

i don't think in terms of good/bad...black/white...the world is in fact a large gray area with many viewpoints needing consideration...my comment about job creator mythology simply imply s that i don't worship them as the end all and be all of achievement..i thank god that we have had many scientific achievements by men who sought after the greater good...because quite frankly a world measured in the dollars and cents of the business class produced Victorian England and it was socialists who brought about the humanization we mostly take for granted and no i think socialism as an all encompassing framework would also be corrupt as is any system which involves mankind
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:51 PM
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My dad was just talking to me about occassio Cortez. He says she's literally the dumbest person in congress / government right now. She said something about if money doesn't grow on trees than why do banks have branches lol. I was reading another political website and this person wrote that she'll only be good for illegals and no one else. I think she said she wants to abolish ICE which is an insane idea btw. Crazy.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:55 PM
 
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a poor man has never offered me a job.
... but very wealthy men have laid off millions due to leveraged buyouts, mergers, offshoring and outsourcing.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:55 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Part of AOC’s green new deal is to give guaranteed income even to those unwilling to work.
What she actually by this was coal miners who were too old to learn new careers would be able to get paid instead of requiring then to learn new skills. Of course AOC tries to look out for coal miners and she gets attacked meanwhile Trump gets credit for trying to bring back a dying industry.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:55 PM
 
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Well yes, it does make someone more of an asset to employment and the economy, than a poor person.

Who do you work for? What is the salary of the highest official in the company? The 15 highest officials? Small business? What does the owner make? What are the clients' salaries?

You seem to think that if someone is handed a million, they just employ people until it is all gone, ignoring the fact they establish a business that continues to operate and make a profit to pay its employees.
i am semi-retired and have my own business...the trump family business model nearest i can figure is to declare bankruptcy the things you say about investment hopefully ring true and should produce profit


donald has six bankruptcies (counted first three as one) but his more modern business model has me wonder if its just some numbers game of musical chairs with somebody else holding the bag...
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Don't you just love it when the rich and privileged establishment pigs who were born into it pontificate on how the little man takes such joy in working hard all his life for crap wages and nothing to pass to his children?
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