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Old 02-26-2019, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Fake news. I suggest you actually read about it before making comments.
Yes, I actually read the proposed green new deal and can say with confidence my statement was true. AOC’s proposed green new deal porposes guaranteed income even for those unwilling to work.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:04 PM
 
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Occasional-Cortex will be making really big tips when she goes back to bartending in two years.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Yes, I actually read the proposed green new deal and can say with confidence my statement was true. AOC’s proposed green new deal porposes guaranteed income even for those unwilling to work.
Yep, that was what I was saying.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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What big time politician wasn't wealthy? You'll have to try hard to find one.
I don't know if she counts as a "big time" politician yet, but Ocasio-Cortez wasn't particularly wealthy.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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And? What does that have to do with anything? A lot of people would not be doing what they do at all if not for circumstances that allowed them to do so. If Bill gates grew up a different way, perhaps he would not do what he is doing, if Joe Smith did not, perhaps he would not be an auto tech.
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She has actually worked you know. Someone being born rich does not mean they never work, Ivanka in fact has put a lot of work into her clothing design, her father's company, etc, all which hold a hell of a lot more responsibility, and impact a whole lot more people, than being a damn bartender somewhere.

Not that it makes Ivanka a better person than someone else, even a janitor, but addressing the merits of "her working", which have nothing to do with if you like her or not.
I mean, yeah, she worked, and undoubtedly she worked hard at her business, and employed people as you said. But the main reason she was able to do that was because she had a rich and famous father. If she didn't, she probably wouldn't have been lucky enough to start a business like that, employing people and more than likely would have waited tables and been a bartender. In which case there wouldn't be as much for people to brag about for her.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:25 PM
 
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I was responding largely to your post here:

I mean, yeah, she worked, and undoubtedly she worked hard at her business, and employed people as you said. But the main reason she was able to do that was because she had a rich and famous father. If she didn't, she probably wouldn't have been lucky enough to start a business like that, employing people and more than likely would have waited tables and been a bartender. In which case there wouldn't be as much for people to brag about for her.
if daddy gave me a million i could hire 100 people so what! part of the republican poor little rich people mythology is to re-name them as "job-creators" its all spin doctor stuff and some of us are hip to all that BS....
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Ivanka: "People want to work for what they get."


What does Ivanka, a privileged trust fund brat, know about work?
think you're busier than her?
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Boston
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a poor man has never offered me a job.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:39 PM
 
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I can support a Universal Basic Income for people unwilling to work but it should require a will to do other things and it should be something like $5/day/person . Nobody should get free money. I guess that’s fair if we feed people who go to prison for committing felony crimes we can do a $5/day/person for doing some very small civic duties like attending some city council meetings
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:39 PM
 
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a poor man has never offered me a job.
so by having access to millions of dollars in daddies loans from some German bank and the ability to distribute that cash in the form of "jobs" makes anybody connected to a billion dollars even if just by being born into the cash more of person than any "poor" person...i get it the old dollars and sense
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