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Old 03-01-2019, 09:12 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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It's funny to hear the Democrats leaders tongue-lashing their rank-and-file Democrat representatives and Senators for daring to vote they way they think is right, instead of marching in lockstep with the extremist leaders as totalitarians always demand.

Best part is where they keep whining that Republicans "march in lockstep" even when the Republicans don't... and say the R party is "in chaos" when they don't.

Will they apply the same standard to their own party?

These people really need to get their stories straight.

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...ocrats-1195854

House Democrats held an emotional debate behind closed doors Thursday over how to stop losing embarrassing procedural battles with Republicans — a clash that exposed the divide between moderates and progressives.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) took a hard line at the caucus meeting, saying that being a member of Congress sometimes requires taking tough votes.

“This is not a day at the beach. This is the Congress of the United States,” Pelosi said, according to two sources.

And Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the superstar New York freshman lawmaker, suggested she would alert progressive activists when Democrats are voting with the GOP on these motions, said the sources.
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Old 03-01-2019, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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IMO, Democratic leadership, as well as Republican leadership, needs to get off the mantra of party first, constituents later. I believe there is a very large moderate population out here that wants their elected leaders to drop the extreme policy approach and figure out what works best for the majority of the people the majority of the time, figure out a way to work across the aisle to implement those changes, and then make it happen.
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Old 03-01-2019, 09:22 AM
 
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IMO, Democratic leadership, as well as Republican leadership, needs to get off the mantra of party first, constituents later. I believe there is a very large moderate population out here that wants their elected leaders to drop the extreme policy approach and figure out what works best for the majority of the people the majority of the time, figure out a way to work across the aisle to implement those changes, and then make it happen.
Solid post...

I think 70% of the population actually wants what is good and equitable for the country... but we get distracted listening to either of the extremes, and we stay more divided than we should be.

Unfortunately, many (not all) of those who reside in the extremes are in high government positions and the propaganda media.
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Old 03-01-2019, 09:25 AM
 
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The Democrats are upset because that resolution added an amendment that authorities must be notified if an illegal attempts to purchase a gun.

Once again, Democrats have shown they want stringent rules for American citizens, but no rules at all for illegals.
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Old 03-01-2019, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Both parties do the "party first" thing. McConnell doesn't allow votes to happen when he can get away with it and he knows there's dissent, Trump threatens republicans for marching out of step, Pelosi insists that everyone vote the same way. Few of them put the constituents first. Government servants are not really serving the people who elected them.
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:07 AM
 
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IMO, Democratic leadership, as well as Republican leadership, needs to get off the mantra of party first, constituents later. I believe there is a very large moderate population out here that wants their elected leaders to drop the extreme policy approach and figure out what works best for the majority of the people the majority of the time, figure out a way to work across the aisle to implement those changes, and then make it happen.
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Solid post...

I think 70% of the population actually wants what is good and equitable for the country... but we get distracted listening to either of the extremes, and we stay more divided than we should be.

Unfortunately, many (not all) of those who reside in the extremes are in high government positions and the propaganda media.
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Both parties do the "party first" thing. McConnell doesn't allow votes to happen when he can get away with it and he knows there's dissent, Trump threatens republicans for marching out of step, Pelosi insists that everyone vote the same way. Few of them put the constituents first. Government servants are not really serving the people who elected them.

three very good posts. well said all.
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Old 03-01-2019, 02:43 PM
 
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Looks like this is what lit the fuse, an R addendum to the D's new gun control bill:

"Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez could not make up her mind over how to vote on the Bipartisan Background Checks bill, which included an amendment that would notify ICE if an illegal alien attempts to purchase a firearm, Republican North Carolina Rep. Richard Hudson *told The Daily Caller on Thursday...."

"....“I thought it was pretty amazing to watch the Democrats try to decide ‘Do we want to protect illegal immigrants or do we want to confiscate guns more?’ It was kind of funny,” Hudson said at the Conservative Political Action Conference.

Hudson continued, “You had Ocasio-Cortez, who actually voted yes then switched to no then switched back to present then switch back to yes....


https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/28/h...ed-against-it/
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Old 03-01-2019, 02:49 PM
 
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Sounds totalitarian.
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Old 03-01-2019, 03:05 PM
 
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Sounds totalitarian.
It is. 100%. The left demands that you will not think on your own. LOL!
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Old 03-01-2019, 05:38 PM
 
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IMO, Democratic leadership, as well as Republican leadership, needs to get off the mantra of party first, constituents later. I believe there is a very large moderate population out here that wants their elected leaders to drop the extreme policy approach and figure out what works best for the majority of the people the majority of the time, figure out a way to work across the aisle to implement those changes, and then make it happen.
Totally agree. This is why I won’t vote for Democrats, even the moderate ones. Nancy Pelosi is so great she was responsible for every blue dog Democrat being wiped out in the 2010 and 2014 midterms. Hasn’t she learned anything?
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