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Old 03-22-2019, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Out of curiosity, where do you stand on the biggest conspiracy theory of our time, the ludicrous "School-to-Prison Pipeline" hypothesis? Is all this a grand conspiracy among teachers, school administrators, cops, prosecutors, judges and juries?
I've never heard of that and don't want to stray off topic again.
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:04 PM
 
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Lmao what a delusional post.

You’re insinuating that weed can make you violent?

It has the exact OPPOSITE effect on the vast majority of people.

It makes you calmer and makes you like other people more.
Nope. Actually, as others have mentioned, it exacerbates psychotic symptoms in people prone to psychosis. You're spouting what is popularly called "bro science." Prolonged marijuana abuse by young people has tragic, deleterious psychological effects, not to mention the opportunity costs. Vigor and industriousness do not flow from marijuana abuse.

Come into public schools these days and ask teachers and administrators about the effects of marijuana on young people and the changes in behavior. They most certainly do not become calmer. (chuckling)
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:23 PM
 
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Nope. Actually, as others have mentioned, it exacerbates psychotic symptoms in people prone to psychosis. You're spouting what is popularly called "bro science." Prolonged marijuana abuse by young people has tragic, deleterious psychological effects, not to mention the opportunity costs. Vigor and industriousness do not flow from marijuana abuse.

Come into public schools these days and ask teachers and administrators about the effects of marijuana on young people and the changes in behavior. They most certainly do not become calmer. (chuckling)
I'm not denying that abuse of pot can cause problems...mostly for those with tendencies toward same anyway (such is the case with many drug and booze abusers - the substance abuse is heavy due to the problem already being there!)....

BUT, how do you - in your own logic - explain away the fact that the most economic and innovative value in the history of the world was largely unlocked in a small geographic area where Drug use was part of the drill?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/..._Dormouse_Said

"John Markoff's landmark book is about the culture and consciousness behind the first PCs--the culture being counter- and the consciousness expanded, sometimes chemically."

Steve Jobs said
Taking LSD was a profound experience, one of the most important things in my life. LSD shows you that there’s another side to the coin, and you can’t remember it when it wears off, but you know it. It reinforced my sense of what was important—creating great things instead of making money, putting things back into the stream of history and of human consciousness as much as I could.”

I know guys who worked in Silicon Valley from way back...until today. Back when it was almost REQUIRED that the engineers partake to expand their creativity. Today the entire science of "hacking your brain (nootropics)" is big money and a vast percentage of knowledge workers partake of something or another (or more like a witches brew of stuff).

California, just by its lonesome, gets 50% of all venture capital in the USA.

These things would not only prove your "Vigor and industriousness do not flow" as false, but would prove the exact opposite.

You cannot argue with actual facts and accomplishment and "asking teachers" or your own views on innovation mean nothing compared to the actual THINGS created.

I hope you can look a bit harder and open YOUR mind because these things don't "just happen". There is a reason for them and medicines is one of them whether you or I approve or not.
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Fake conservatives wanting to control others with fake news. What else is news?
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:31 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Fake conservatives wanting to control others with fake news. What else is news?
There’s nothing conservative about today’s Republican Party. They are right wing authoritarians to the core, believing a religious state should have total control over what people can and cannot do with their bodies. And it’s all because somebody thinks their sky wizard told them it should be that way. I so cannot wait for the theocratic religious right to fade from political dominance.
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Old 03-22-2019, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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Nope. Actually, as others have mentioned, it exacerbates psychotic symptoms in people prone to psychosis. You're spouting what is popularly called "bro science." Prolonged marijuana abuse by young people has tragic, deleterious psychological effects, not to mention the opportunity costs. Vigor and industriousness do not flow from marijuana abuse.

Come into public schools these days and ask teachers and administrators about the effects of marijuana on young people and the changes in behavior. They most certainly do not become calmer. (chuckling)
Yet people who have smoked most of thier adult lives are not psychotic, I’m one of them as many others on here who smoke themselves. The only danger that comes from smoking marijuana is gaining weight on occasion. You all keep posted these biased sources based not science but money. So now it’s my turn to posted some baised ones as well.
Hold tight there is science involved here. The studies you all keep going on about on baised against Marijuana because of its healing properties versus the drug companies keeping people hooked on things like Fentanyl.



By the way the guy that wrote this article is as follows.


Carl L Hart. is the chairman and Ziff professor of psychology and psychiatry at Columbia University and author of High Price: A Neuroscientist’s Journey of Self-Discovery that Challenges Everything You Know About Drugs and Society. Charles Ksir is professor emeritus of psychology and Neuroscience at the University of Wyoming and author of Drugs, Society and Human Behavior.

https://www.420magazine.com/science/...tic-disorders/



https://drcarlhart.com/who-knows-mor...s-or-the-feds/



The drug stimulates appetite in HIV-positive patients, which could be a lifesaver for someone suffering from AIDS wasting syndrome,

and

that marijuana is useful in the treatment of neuropathic pain, chronic pain, and spasticity due to multiple sclerosis.

https://www.compassionatecertificati...cal-marijuana/

Doctors’ support for medical marijuana is backed by the numerous research results that have proven that marijuana is clearly a potential treatment option for a number of medical conditions and a solution to several other symptoms.

Research from all over the world has proven marijuana to be a solution and an optional treatment for several medical conditions. For example, the Epilepsy Foundation requested the Drug Enforcement Administration to relax its restrictions on marijuana so that its role in combatting epilepsy could be properly studied.

It is because of this that laws that permit the use of medical marijuana for the treatment of certain conditions has been acknowledged in the different states that voted legalization in the US. Some of these illnesses often treated with medical marijuana include among several others seizure disorders, chronic pain from injuries or medical conditions such as cancer, loss of appetite, nausea from medication, and multiple sclerosis.

When it comes to pain, medical marijuana has proven a better painkiller than numerous narcotic painkillers, like oxycodone and with less potential for addiction.

Oncologists (cancer specialists) and hematologists (blood disorder specialists) are among the physicians who highly support the use of medical marijuana and are certain that it can provide real medical benefits to patients.

Marijuana has also been found helpful for veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). In Massachusetts, retired physician Michael Olstein said that the legalization of marijuana will most definitely make research into its medical benefits easier.

Last but not least:

In the states where medical marijuana has been made legal, Medicare Prescriptions for several drugs have dropped. This is because not only does medical marijuana provide a better option for several ailments but it also is more effective as compared to other opioid. In 2013 alone, medical marijuana saved Medicare about $165 million.

Stick that science in your pipe and smoke it.. wait never mind I’ll do it.

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Old 03-22-2019, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Nope. Actually, as others have mentioned, it exacerbates psychotic symptoms in people prone to psychosis. You're spouting what is popularly called "bro science." Prolonged marijuana abuse by young people has tragic, deleterious psychological effects, not to mention the opportunity costs. Vigor and industriousness do not flow from marijuana abuse.

Come into public schools these days and ask teachers and administrators about the effects of marijuana on young people and the changes in behavior. They most certainly do not become calmer. (chuckling)
You have no idea what you are talking about, I doubt you have even toked yourself ever.

It absolutely does make you calmer

You’re spouting ridiculous fallacies and are way out of your depth here.

When I use cannabis I feel a deep and peaceful calm and that is almost universal among all those I know who do as well.

You also need to stop viewing this through the extremely narrow lens of youth that are heavy users. I’m in my 30s and never had a problem with cannabis or any other drugs as a youth. Can cannabis be abused? Yes, as any drug can. That’s not a reason to make it illegal or we’d have to go back to alcohol prohibition too.
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Old 03-22-2019, 10:13 PM
 
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There’s nothing conservative about today’s Republican Party. They are right wing authoritarians to the core, believing a religious state should have total control over what people can and cannot do with their bodies. And it’s all because somebody thinks their sky wizard told them it should be that way. I so cannot wait for the theocratic religious right to fade from political dominance.
Christianity! Bah!!!
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Old 03-22-2019, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I don't understand the point of this thread.

Then again, I'm high right now.
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Old 03-22-2019, 11:06 PM
 
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As long as they are not my conductor I will be fine. Stoners know to avoid me. Some even transfer out.
I'm sure there's plenty of non stoners that avoid you also.

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