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Originally Posted by KS_Referee
Are you suggesting we should have to pay for our own healthcare insurance AND the healthcare insurance of others too? You seem certain that your goal of generosity, charity and benevolence with other peoples' money is somehow acceptable and nottheft and that leaves me baffled.
I would agree IF that meant you pay for yours and I'll pay for mine BUT that isn't what you mean.
You and people of your mindset do not appear mentally capable of comprehending that government interference into the market, injecting a ton of guaranteed tax dollars along with massive regulation of the market is what CREATED the healthcare financial crisis. So your solution is to double down on stupid ideas by having the government completely take over it?
Let me guess... your only class in economics was economic illiteracy 101?
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by KS_Referee
I would agree IF that meant you pay for yours and I'll pay for mine BUT that isn't what you mean.
You and people of your mindset do not appear mentally capable of comprehending that government interference into the market, injecting a ton of guaranteed tax dollars along with massive regulation of the market is what CREATED the healthcare financial crisis. So your solution is to double down on stupid ideas by having the government completely take over it?
Let me guess... your only class in economics was economic illiteracy 101?
What are you talking about? Several other first world countries, including Canada have made single payer work. It works because not everyone consumes healthcare at the same time
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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The people who push for single payer healthcare aren’t paying for **** now, they wouldn’t pay then either.
That's not true, a lot of us (myself included) have insurance, but it has high copays and deductibles, so you still have to pay big $$$ at point of use, which almost defeats the purpose of paying for insurance
Have you ever thought that if you got the damn government out of it, get rid of all of those regulations, and have an actual free market, that the prices would plummet?
No, because it's not that the left wants "cheap" healthcare for all, they want free for them at the added ridiculously high expense to taxpayers.
You're dreaming if you think ditching regulations and letting the medical industry self regulate is a good idea. I don't want my doctor "trained" in some back alley warehouse in the finer arts of human anatomy. That's just nuts.
What are you talking about? Several other first world countries, including Canada have made single payer work. It works because not everyone consumes healthcare at the same time
Single payer doesn't work. Canada's and the UK's healthcare s*cks. Extremely long wait times in the ERs and most of the healthcare is dispensed in clinics. The quality of medical care in the US is much higher.
GoFundMe is perfect for these medical bill funding requests. The general public should not be forced to pay the medical bills for those who live in an unhealthy manner (overeating, cigarette smoking, alcoholism)... but if YOU feel sorry for them, then YOU donate to their GoFundMe page. I also don't want my insurance premiums covering some mentally ill person's desire for a sex change operation. And there is a lot of really expensive experimental treatments that I don't believe should be covered by insurance. So for all of that, turn to GoFundMe pages and other methods of fundraising.
That's not true, a lot of us (myself included) have insurance, but it has high copays and deductibles, so you still have to pay big $$$ at point of use, which almost defeats the purpose of paying for insurance
How much are you paying for your health insurance and is it through the ACA?
Have you ever thought that if you got the damn government out of it, get rid of all of those regulations, and have an actual free market, that the prices would plummet?
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If we did get government out, there is no evidence whatever that prices would "plummet." The only thing that we know for a fact would plummet would be average life expectancy.
responsible people raising families buy health insurance, they don't depend on charity, they love their children.
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