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The people who want abortion banned might as well declare war on recreational sex.
If the Supreme Court decides to get the feds out of the abortion question by overturning Roe v Wade, then people who feel it's wrong to ban all abortion are going to have to rise up in their states and fight for the right to abortion. Refusing to consider why Ireland repealed its ban on all abortions will only lead to moral disaster. This is because those who want all abortion banned absolutely will not give a damn what can happen to women, who get illegal abortions. They will be cold enough to feel such women deserve as much as death.
Who should be protected, the sinner or the innocent?
"The high rate of unintended pregnancies in the United States could be on the decline for the first time in decades, according to a new study.
The researchers found that the proportion of pregnancies in the United States that were unintended dropped from 51% of all pregnancies between 2006 to 2010 to 45% between 2009 and 2013. Looking at women 15 to 44 years old in the general population, they determined that 54 out of 1,000 women had an unintended pregnancy between 2006 and 2010, compared with only 45 out of 1,000 in the more recent period."
The need for abortion clinics are going with it ...
"In the United States, the proportion of pregnancies that were unintended increased slightly between 2001 and 2008 (from 48% to 51%), but, by 2011, the proportion decreased to 45%."
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Things changed. Women are not getting pregnant like they use to and fewer babies are being born. World wide is a baby bust with populations consisting of more old people than children.
Abortion became an effective (Darwinism) tool used in population control where as it was believed we would over populate the planet and use up the [wealthy people's] resources. Turns out maybe the tool was too effective, because now the world's economies are facing a decline in their workforce. The u.s. is not the only country looking to change their abortion laws and curtail human behavior. The reasoning is obvious:
That in bold is not happening in the u.s. either, because we are no longer a 'family' goal oriented society. Fewer teen pregnancies and out of wedlock pregnancies as well ... Therefore, there is less of a need for abortion clinics as there was in (1973) the past. And while there are those that are going I'm looking at the statistics knowing the legislative decisions is par give to the current trend in women's reproductive activities.
I would think though that sooner of later our survival instincts would kick in ... but then again, maybe not.
They're not doing away with all the abortion clinics or banning abortion any more than the wars across the globe, we would suddenly find ourselves in peace agreements ... legal killing will remain legal, until people change their minds.
Just because unintended pregnancy rates are down doesn't do away with the need for abortion clinics, we are still the highest of any civilized country so lets not celebrate just yet. Assuming you stopped abortion entirely do you have a plan, is our foster care system that good, are they overstaffed, We also have the highest teen pregnancy rate of any civilized country.
The birth rate in the US is down, has nothing to do with abortion but if not for new young immigrants we would be below replacement.
These states like Alabama that have one abortion clinic due to legislative action are pretty close to an abortion ban in that state but in reality all they have done is make it difficult for poor women. Upper middle class women will still have no problem terminating a pregnancy.
"The high rate of unintended pregnancies in the United States could be on the decline for the first time in decades, according to a new study.
The researchers found that the proportion of pregnancies in the United States that were unintended dropped from 51% of all pregnancies between 2006 to 2010 to 45% between 2009 and 2013. Looking at women 15 to 44 years old in the general population, they determined that 54 out of 1,000 women had an unintended pregnancy between 2006 and 2010, compared with only 45 out of 1,000 in the more recent period."
The need for abortion clinics are going with it ...
"In the United States, the proportion of pregnancies that were unintended increased slightly between 2001 and 2008 (from 48% to 51%), but, by 2011, the proportion decreased to 45%."
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Things changed. Women are not getting pregnant like they use to and fewer babies are being born. World wide is a baby bust with populations consisting of more old people than children.
Abortion became an effective (Darwinism) tool used in population control where as it was believed we would over populate the planet and use up the [wealthy people's] resources. Turns out maybe the tool was too effective, because now the world's economies are facing a decline in their workforce. The u.s. is not the only country looking to change their abortion laws and curtail human behavior. The reasoning is obvious:
That in bold is not happening in the u.s. either, because we are no longer a 'family' goal oriented society. Fewer teen pregnancies and out of wedlock pregnancies as well ... Therefore, there is less of a need for abortion clinics as there was in (1973) the past. And while there are those that are going I'm looking at the statistics knowing the legislative decisions is par give to the current trend in women's reproductive activities.
I would think though that sooner of later our survival instincts would kick in ... but then again, maybe not.
They're not doing away with all the abortion clinics or banning abortion any more than the wars across the globe, we would suddenly find ourselves in peace agreements ... legal killing will remain legal, until people change their minds.
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Just because unintended pregnancy rates are down doesn't do away with the need for abortion clinics, we are still the highest of any civilized country so lets not celebrate just yet. Assuming you stopped abortion entirely do you have a plan, is our foster care system that good, are they overstaffed, We also have the highest teen pregnancy rate of any civilized country.
The birth rate in the US is down, has nothing to do with abortion but if not for new young immigrants we would be below replacement.
These states like Alabama that have one abortion clinic due to legislative action are pretty close to an abortion ban in that state but in reality all they have done is make it difficult for poor women. Upper middle class women will still have no problem terminating a pregnancy.
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Just because unintended pregnancy rates are down doesn't do away with the need for abortion clinics
Are they doing away with all the abortion clinics? I think not. wth?
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if not for new young immigrants we would be below replacement.
This is true, but even young new immigrants are not having babies either ... just so you know.
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but in reality all they have done is make it difficult for poor women. Upper middle class women will still have no problem terminating a pregnancy.
What part of Darwinism did you not get? Abortion clinics are for the poor women, so they won't have more poor babies. Only the best, the brightest and the wealthiest will survive; providing abortion for women makes sure of it ...
Abortion is increasingly concentrated among poor women, as well as, women of color, in 2014 black women had the highest abortion rate. You know why upper middle class don't have a problem terminating a pregnancy right? They can afford to have the child and send the child to the best colleges.
They are not doing away with all the abortion clinics. Poor people will still be able to terminate their pregnancies as the wealthy politicians will make sure of it, I'm sure. The government has been in the business of population control since day one, from sterilization of Native American women to providing abortions for those who can't seem to figure it out. Just because a few laws are changing ... doesn't mean those [leopard] spots have changed.
To be clear, the "god" performs more abortions than all the abortion clinics put together!
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Miscarriage is the spontaneous loss of a pregnancy before the 20th week. About 10 to 20 percent of known pregnancies end in miscarriage. But the actual number is likely higher because many miscarriages occur so early in pregnancy that a woman doesn't realize she's pregnant.
If you care so much about poor people, why don't Democrats oppose illegal immigration which is making it more difficult for the poor in America to rise in income.
Illegal immigration has nothing to do with being poor. We can't rise in income because picky employers are often looking for that purple squirrel. I wouldn't bother about cheap labor either. If it wasn't illegal immigrants they'd just find someone else to do cheap labor or maybe they just won't hire anyone. As a job seeker I've seen job listings just sit there and the place of business is short staffed.
"Exposure to toxic environmental chemicals during pregnancy and breastfeeding is ubiquitous and is a threat to healthy human reproduction," the report states.
The piece was written by a team of physicians and scientists from the United States, the United Kingdom and Canada, including from the World Health Organisation.
It was published in the International Journal of Gynecology and Obstetrics ahead of a global conference on women's health issues next week in Vancouver, British Columbia.
What would make even sort of some kind of vague sense to me, is if abortion laws were to criminalize a specific PROCEDURE, via the medical channels, rather than the moralistic, "life begins at conception" thing that isn't really that comprehensively logical when it's examined.
So what I mean, is that I could maybe get behind having the pill-based form of abortion available, which is a thing you cannot do past 10 weeks. There's a very specific time limit, and past that, it's not safe or effective or...well, it's just not done. So you ban the more invasive form of the procedure that becomes necessary to terminate pregnancy later...UNLESS it is a situation where there is medical certification that the baby is not viable and/or the mother's life is in danger. With documented proof thereof.
But those who think that a 5-6 week old EMBRYO (it's not a fetus, technically, until later, like 9-11 weeks) is a human life to the extent that it should be criminal for it to be allowed to die, without every possible effort made to keep it alive...
Are you familiar with the practices of in-vitro fertilization clinics? And what are your thoughts on that? They either destroy outright, or donate to science which entails destruction during or after research projects, MILLIONS of fertilized embryos. They do it all the time.
Are you also crusading to save all of those microscopic proto-babies?
Seriously I cannot get behind the notion of being as passionate to save the life of something less sentient than your average insect, just because it could POTENTIALLY be a human one day. Every sperm and egg could potentially become 50% of some possible person. I don't care. And pro lifers are gonna need to demonstrate a lot more compassion about babies and children who are actually born into the world and living in hardship, before I'm gonna buy that it's all about the sanctity and sacredness of human life.
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I'm looking at the statistics knowing the legislative decisions is par give to the current trend in women's reproductive activities.
