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Old 04-24-2019, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Imagine for a moment that CA were to lose those 3 seats and they went to more right-leaning states. Imagine that the House became very close and those 3 seats made the difference between a Republican speaker and a Democrat Speaker, and majority. It's about maintaining those seats to keep them solidly blue. I would expect the same fight if the seats could be lost in a red state.
Imagine if the Feds didn't have power like the founders envisioned and the states got to decide more things for themselves?

 
Old 04-25-2019, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Ummm... I would be shocked if Texas lost anything. People have been moving here from everywhere.
The same obvious reason as California. Texas has 2 million strong illegal immigrant population. As a matter of fact, as a percentage of the population, TX ranks higher than CA.

TX has 797 000 residents per House seat, and if you remove 2 million people in the census, they will lose 2 seats.
 
Old 04-25-2019, 06:26 AM
 
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Democrats have always wanted their people of color to increase their clout and representation without having full rights. They used this mechanism in the South when they used the 3/5 clause to count their slaves and they are attempting to use it again now to count their Hispanics.
 
Old 04-25-2019, 06:34 AM
 
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How many illegals actually vote? Nada. You’re all paranoid as usual.
You must have missed the fact that it is the Attorney General of California that is “paranoid “
 
Old 04-25-2019, 06:39 AM
 
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How many illegals actually vote? Nada. You’re all paranoid as usual.
This has nothing to do with voting. Do you understand that a state's number of Representatives and electoral votes is dependent on the state's population? Illegals should not be counted, pure and simple.
 
Old 04-25-2019, 07:00 AM
 
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How many illegals actually vote? Nada. You’re all paranoid as usual.
Maybe you didn't read the OP. This has nothing to do with illegals voting.
 
Old 04-25-2019, 07:20 AM
 
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Texas has had enough growth in terms of domestic migration and natural increase that they are unlikely to lose seats (although they may not gain as many as they would've without the census question). California is a different story. Overall an undercount of non-citizens would probably benefit the Republicans. Oddly enough that means Minnesota, one of the states where the census question would very likely result in it keeping a seat that it was bound to lose in 2020, was actually against the question when the idea first came up.
 
Old 04-25-2019, 07:32 AM
 
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The same obvious reason as California. Texas has 2 million strong illegal immigrant population. As a matter of fact, as a percentage of the population, TX ranks higher than CA.

TX has 797 000 residents per House seat, and if you remove 2 million people in the census, they will lose 2 seats.
I'm here. I see it. I'm not worried.

Even if we lost seats... they are here illegally. They shouldn't be counted... they shouldn't be here.
 
Old 04-25-2019, 11:04 AM
 
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Given the current hysteria, and polarized atmosphere, surrounding the immigration issue, I imagine many of the legal non-citizen residents of the US will also think twice before filling out the census.
Hysteria? Um no, justified objection. Illegal immigration isn't "immigration" either.
 
Old 04-25-2019, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm here. I see it. I'm not worried.

Even if we lost seats... they are here illegally. They shouldn't be counted... they shouldn't be here.
Its weird you worry about California when your own State has the same exact problem.

The census is not meant to count citizens only, but all people. The data is used in public works planning like roadways. If your numbers are low, everyone will end up sitting in traffic because the new road has one lane too few.
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