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Just to add you need to be very careful with stats like this, you need to look at underlying causes there may be before trying to draw conclusions. For example difficult or complicated pregnancies in European nations are more likely to be aborted, here in the US they go to extraordinary lengths to have a live birth. You have more babies here that are not in great health simply because they were not aborted.
Europe has nothing to do with this. These are stats for the US.
This might have something to do with it:
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In addition, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi and Missouri did not expand Medicaid under the ACA, creating gaps in health care coverage for women of childbearing age, according to a new study from Georgetown University that examined links between Medicaid expansion and insurance.
The uninsured rate for women of childbearing age is nearly twice as high in states that have not expanded Medicaid," said Adam Searing, a research professor at the Georgetown University Center for Children and Families. "That means a lot more women who don’t have health coverage before they get pregnant or after they have their children."
Perhaps those states should put forth the largest effort into finding out what's going on and save those babies?
a valid criticism would be the medical profession isn't doing a good job addressing black women's higher risk pregnancies. It is a fact black women have more pregnancy complications than white or Hispanic women regardless of income or state. This would be a valid topic for discussion.
claiming there are abortion bans is not true. claiming that "abortion bans" result in higher infant mortality is not true.
The point is this is underlying issue driving the rates higher in the states they mentioned.
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These are American babies, not embryos, that are dying and something should be done to help them.
If you want to go in look this up on the CDC what you will find is they are not quite sure why, to reiterate this crosses economic lines in the back community. It's not just poor blacks.
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And the maternal mortality rate in this country is disgraceful too.
Once again one of the underlying factors is babies that would be aborted in other countries because they would be difficult pregnancies are not aborted here. One thing to understand is this is not a abortion issue but both parents and the medical community opting to do it.
If you outlaw abortion by the time a heartbeat is detected, you've essentially outlawed abortion, because most people don't know they're pregnant until such time as you get the early heartbeat (and the heart isn't even fully formed, but it does technically "beat").
So, it is a good question. Why are those states more focused on severely limiting abortion than prenatal care and better outcomes for women who WANT to give birth?
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If you outlaw abortion by the time a heartbeat is detected, you've essentially outlawed abortion, because most people don't know they're pregnant until such time as you get the early heartbeat (and the heart isn't even fully formed, but it does technically "beat").
So, it is a good question. Why are those states more focused on severely limiting abortion than prenatal care and better outcomes for women who WANT to give birth?
The pill, condoms, the morning after pill, one partner, etc. The list goes on and on of options for people not to be using abortion as birth control.
a valid criticism would be the medical profession isn't doing a good job addressing black women's higher risk pregnancies. It is a fact black women have more pregnancy complications than white or Hispanic women regardless of income or state. This would be a valid topic for discussion.
claiming there are abortion bans is not true. claiming that "abortion bans" result in higher infant mortality is not true.
dishonest thread topics irritate me.
Not dishonest at all.
These are effectively bans..as has been pointed out.
And again, if that's your only quibble....
Apparently not all lives are as precious as unborn embryos or these states would be doing more to promote birth control, maternal health (both prior to and during pregnancy) and health care for babies.
Europe has nothing to do with this. These are stats for the US.
I know that, the point is you need to understand underlying issues as to what may drive stats. A state with a large black population would necessarily have higher infant morality rate regardless of abortion laws.
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This might have something to do with it:
My Mother was OB nurse and until her recent retirement was also holding birthing classes since the early 70's. Despite these services being offered for free and other free prenatal programs the first time many of these low income women were seeing a doctor was when they were getting ready to give birth. She also mentioned many of them paying attention to their cell phone instead of the class if they attended. Those paying attention were typically middle income etc.
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