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Old 05-30-2019, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Texas
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So blacks in general are less educated? Your graph also doesn’t take into account what schools are being attended or what the average grad does in terms of income/contribution to society. Also, what about things like obesity, crime or having children out of wedlock? Seems foolish to think demographics are meaningless.
winner, winner, chicken dinner No matter which group one is from, children from single parent homes have a much higher rate of crime, are less educated, and make less money.
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/...es/#item-start

Life expectancy dropping in 2015 and 2016 represented not only the U.S.’s first decreases in the past 20 years but also the first consecutive 2-year decline in life expectancy since 1964.

This anomaly is attributable in large part to a rising death rate among younger age groups; the death rate rose between 2014 and 2016 for age groups:

15-24 (14.4%),

25-34 (19%), and

35-44 (9.7%).

CDC research identified drug overdoses as a leading factor, with the age-adjusted rate of drug overdose deaths in 2016 (19.8 per 100,000) being 36% higher than the rate in 2014 (14.7).




according to researchers at Peterson-Kaiser, the opioids epidemic has been a major contributor to lower life expectancy in the US. Overdose deaths of young americans have skyrocketed. there is something seriously missing in young people's lives when they think potentially deadly drugs are the answer to their unhappiness. Public policy can't fill their void.
Agreed. Getting rid of the welfare state is the answer. Why work and raise your kids when government will.
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:39 PM
 
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That could be part of it. But living next door in Georgia, it isn't the only part. I know enough about Alabama to understand that said state is a bit behind. If we compare White populations between Massachusetts and Alabama, Alabama's White population is less educated relative to Massachusetts' White population. Two different states with divergent histories. Massachusetts is home to the country's first public school. It's home to respected institutions like MIT and Harvard. A lion's share of Alabama's population, both Black and White, was illiterate until the early 20th century.

And this isn't just an industrial vs agricultural issue. Iowa is well known for its agricultural economy. It has long ranked better in education than most places in the South. Iowa was traditionally agricultural. So was Alabama. Alabama's agriculture has long been a plantation society, which continued long after slavery ended. Iowa, far different. No plantations, just private farms. Iowa invested in education.

Now, as for Georgia, Blacks in Georgia tend to be much better educated compared to Alabama. Look no further than Atlanta. Let's just say Georgia isn't Alabama in several aspects.
Agreed. We need Affirmative Action for poor southern whites.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:07 PM
 
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Agreed. We need Affirmative Action for poor southern whites.
Why? Do they lack bootstraps to pull themselves up by?
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:39 PM
 
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Why? Do they lack bootstraps to pull themselves up by?
If it going to be applied, it doesn't need to be racist.
Jim Webb wrote an interesting article.

"In 1938, President Franklin Roosevelt created a national commission to study what he termed "the long and ironic history of the despoiling of this truly American section." At that time, most industries in the South were owned by companies outside the region. Of the South's 1.8 million sharecroppers, 1.2 million were white (a mirror of the population, which was 71% white). The illiteracy rate was five times that of the North-Central states and more than twice that of New England and the Middle Atlantic (despite the waves of European immigrants then flowing to those regions). The total endowments of all the colleges and universities in the South were less than the endowments of Harvard and Yale alone. The average schoolchild in the South had $25 a year spent on his or her education, compared to $141 for children in New York.

Generations of such deficiencies do not disappear overnight, and they affect the momentum of a culture. In 1974, a National Opinion Research Center (NORC) study of white ethnic groups showed that white Baptists nationwide averaged only 10.7 years of education, a level almost identical to blacks' average of 10.6 years, and well below that of most other white groups. A recent NORC Social Survey of white adults born after World War II showed that in the years 1980-2000, only 18.4% of white Baptists and 21.8% of Irish Protestants—the principal ethnic group that settled the South—had obtained college degrees, compared to a national average of 30.1%, a Jewish average of 73.3%, and an average among those of Chinese and Indian descent of 61.9%.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:43 PM
 
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Agreed. Getting rid of the welfare state is the answer. Why work and raise your kids when government will.
How does life expectancy compare in states (or other countries) with less welfare state support against those states (or other countries) with more extensive welfare state support systems?
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:02 PM
 
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The only thing we know for certain is that it's 100% the fault of the democrats or republicans.
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Old 05-31-2019, 09:15 AM
 
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How does life expectancy compare in states (or other countries) with less welfare state support against those states (or other countries) with more extensive welfare state support systems?
Countries with a better safety net and a livable minimum wage have a higher life expectancy. "Welfare" is an ideological term that (for some anti-guvm'nt folks) even includes the safety net: Social Security, Medicare, food stamps. As Rush Limbaugh said, "We took care of our own elderly family members back in the day" -- in his call for cuts to, and the eventual dismantling of, the U.S. Social Security system. That would lower average life expectancy in America, I am sure.
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Old 05-31-2019, 09:27 AM
 
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Countries with a better safety net and a livable minimum wage have a higher life expectancy. "Welfare" is an ideological term that (for some anti-guvm'nt folks) even includes the safety net: Social Security, Medicare, food stamps. As Rush Limbaugh said, "We took care of our own elderly family members back in the day" -- in his call for cuts to, and the eventual dismantling of, the U.S. Social Security system. That would lower average life expectancy in America, I am sure.
We don't need a bigger safety net, all that results in is more unwanted people who were born only as a source of more state help. Health care needs to be reformed to take the profit motive out of providing healthcare.
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Old 05-31-2019, 09:28 AM
 
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Leftist agenda having it's desired effect. Nothing to see here...

And you all know there are tons of leftists who are glad to see this.
I don't know a single person who would be glad to see this.

What is wrong with you?
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