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Old 06-04-2019, 04:07 PM
 
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A cat is better off being dropped off at a shelter than being declawed.

Anybody who does not know how to deal with a cat's scratching behavior probably should not have a cat.
A dead cat is better off than a declawed cat is what you're essentially saying.

Since we know millions of dogs and cats experience medical problems after being spayed and neutered, are they better off being dropped off at the shelter, where a significant number will be euthanized, than being "fixed"?

Yeah, I know there will be a double standard here.

 
Old 06-04-2019, 04:08 PM
 
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This is utter nonsense. Mine were declawed, the lived to be 20 and 21, and were fine until age finally got them.

And why is this in the political forum. This is a New York issue.

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A cat is better off being dropped off at a shelter than being declawed.

Anybody who does not know how to deal with a cat's scratching behavior probably should not have a cat.
 
Old 06-04-2019, 04:09 PM
 
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Because people won't adopt cats if they can't have them declawed. The the don't want their stuff and themselves shredded.
That's the thing about"feel good" laws, the people who support them are too naive to understand the repercussions.
 
Old 06-04-2019, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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A dead cat is better off than a declawed cat is what you're essentially saying.
Few shelters these days euthanize the animals they receive.

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Since we know millions of dogs and cats experience medical problems after being spayed and neutered, are they better off being dropped off at the shelter, where a significant number will be euthanized, than being "fixed"?

Yeah, I know there will be a double standard here.
There are few long-term negative effects of being spayed/neutered. Furthermore, spaying/neutering helps to resolve an actual, real problem of pet overpopulation.

There are many long-term negative effects of being declawed. And declawing of cats is done for absolutely no medical reason at all. The only reason people declaw their cats is because they're too clueless to understand how to deal with a cat's scratching behavior.
 
Old 06-04-2019, 04:12 PM
 
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This is very true. People don't think more than one step past their actions.

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That's the thing about"feel good" laws, the people who support them are too naive to understand the repercussions.
 
Old 06-04-2019, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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This is utter nonsense. Mine were declawed, the lived to be 20 and 21, and were fine until age finally got them.
As I have already said, there is evidence that cats experience chronic pain their entire lives from declawing. It could be that your cats lived to an old age, but that doesn't mean they didn't have chronic pain in their toes during their lives.
 
Old 06-04-2019, 04:14 PM
 
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They never showed any signs of it. They were fully mobile and showed now issues being on the paws.

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As I have already said, there is evidence that cats experience chronic pain their entire lives from declawing. It could be that your cats lived to an old age, but that doesn't mean they didn't have chronic pain in their toes during their lives.
 
Old 06-04-2019, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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I never knew a single person who declawed a cat. They seemed to know that cats come with them, and removing them as no benefit to the cat.
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Originally Posted by BBMW View Post
This is utter nonsense. Mine were declawed, the lived to be 20 and 21, and were fine until age finally got them.

[b]And why is this in the political forum. This is a New York issue.
[b]


Pssssst: You conveniently left out the "controversies" part. Yes, this is the Politics And Other Controversies forum. The fact that a controversy originates in a particular state doesn't mean it's not broadly of interest elsewhere.
 
Old 06-04-2019, 04:17 PM
 
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This is why I complained about this being a NY issue out in the national politics forum. The main NYC animal shelter is a kill shelter. So banning declawing will likely slow down adoptions, keeping cats in the city pound till they're put down. That's just the way it is.

So to all the crazy cat ladies out their who pushed this idiocy, know that you have cat blood on your hands.

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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
Few shelters these days euthanize the animals they receive.


There are few long-term negative effects of being spayed/neutered. Furthermore, spaying/neutering helps to resolve an actual, real problem of pet overpopulation.

There are many long-term negative effects of being declawed. And declawing of cats is done for absolutely no medical reason at all. The only reason people declaw their cats is because they're too clueless to understand how to deal with a cat's scratching behavior.
 
Old 06-04-2019, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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They never showed any signs of it. They were fully mobile and showed now issues being on the paws.
As has been pointed out here already, cats are good at hiding their pain. Just because the cat showed no outward signs of being in pain, doesn't mean they weren't.
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