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Old 09-12-2019, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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The above re-quoted for context.
Thanks, but no thanks. Clearly I'm not on board with your rhetoric..

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Invaded from where? Learn your geography.
So if the USA was just a big space of nothing you think the oceans would protect you? I know geography.

Who would invade you? Russia, probably. Certainly Germany in WW2.

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Truman, Eisenhower, Reagan, Bush I and II, milquetoast? I've been in each of their Presidential Libraries, I've read the decisions they had to make, and to a man, none of them were "milquetoast". I am going back to Truman's and Bush I, as a non-academic, I am actually allowed to go through the archives, although one has to make an appointment to do so. (Don't ask me why, but I can't go through the others, specifically Eisenhower's, which I would love to; I have the world of respect for the man)
I'm glad you have access to all of this USA stuff. You seem pretty enamored.

And as an ACTUAL US CITIZEN, here's what I think about past Presidents:

Obama did some things I liked but overall he was just divisive and typical liberal. Obamacare was a total disaster. Bush 2 was a terrible president- do I even need to get into why? Clinton was actually ok, the man balanced the budget and left us with a surplus--nobody can deny him credit for that. Bush 1 was decent, deserves respect. Reagan was the last truly great President. Carter before that was terrible, so was Ford, so was Nixon. How far back do you want me to go??

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I am saddened, as a world citizen, that you would denigrate those Presidents that came before Trump, those Presidents who played a large part in actually making America great. Without the Eisenhower initiative of the interstate highway system, the USA would not be the economic power it is. It is probably the one greatest policy initiative from an economic perspective that happened.
Did I ever say anything about Eisenhower? Like I said, how far back do you want me to go? I can say whatever I want about past Presidents.

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No one, outside the Trump echo chamber, believes what he says. No one trusts him. And that reflects on the rest of the country, and the sad part is, when he is gone, that lack of trust will continue.

YOU may not see the damage being done, but most people do.
I'm not worried about what a bunch of foreigners think about my country. Nobody else is, either. Get over it.

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We will agree to disagree. I've been in 46 of the 50 States, many for extended periods of time. Have you? How well have you interacted in your own country?
Lol what, you'd be "more American than me" if you've seen more states? Sorry, no. Sounds like you really, really wish you actually were a U.S. citizen.

But for the record I've seen most states, spent two years living in Los Angeles, and love exploring my country.

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You're right. How many countries since Trump's been in office? How many people in those countries have you heard and listened too?
How many times do I have to tell you that I don't care. Most other Americans don't, either. They all need us for something.

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Warren is getting the support she is, as I view her almost as damaged as Clinton was. And Bernie?... Jesus... talk about an old man yelling at cloud!
This is actually refreshing and funny to hear. Definitely agree with you there- I cannot stand that man, and Warren isn't much better.

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All the leading Democratic candidates rank higher in battleground States than Trump. Could that change? Sure. Will it? I doubt it.
The dems don't have a chance in 2020, sorry. It's either weak old man Biden or the Socialists...the latter of which most of America doesn't want.
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Old 09-13-2019, 07:26 AM
 
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Old 09-13-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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Oh, another Biden gem last night was that he said he will let ALL nonviolent criminals out of jail. So I guess Bernie Madoff is pretty stoked today.
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Old 09-13-2019, 07:58 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Oh, another Biden gem last night was that he said he will let ALL nonviolent criminals out of jail. So I guess Bernie Madoff is pretty stoked today.
Trump will breathe a sigh of relief too.
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Old 09-13-2019, 07:59 AM
 
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Trump will breathe a sigh of relief too.
Why because you think Trump is in jail?
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:05 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Why because you think Trump is in jail?
No but he will be.
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Unfortunately, the gaffes keep piling up for Joe Biden. It's not a one-time (or periodic) thing; they are happening every time he speaks.

But even more important, as wrong as Castro's attack on him was (since Castro clearly, falsely misrepresented what he said), it was worse that he Biden didn't defend himself or attack Castro back for blatantly lying.

People used to love the scrappy Scranton persona of Joe, but sadly, it looks like that no longer really exists (or at least nowhere near the level it used to). He just looks really tired and exhausted (of no fault of his own). If he does get the nomination, it will be a long, exhausting road for him to bear.
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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He looks extremely tired. I get exhausted just watching him speak/stumble/mumble around on TV.


What a sad display. Like an old world championship boxer that held on for a few too many fights.


Biden comes off like he's got brain damage. So pathetic. Just lusting after the power he's had for 50 years.
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:10 AM
 
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No but he will be.
I wouldn't hold my breathe if I were you.
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:12 AM
 
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He looks extremely tired. I get exhausted just watching him speak/stumble/mumble around on TV.


What a sad display. Like an old world championship boxer that held on for a few too many fights.


Biden comes off like he's got brain damage. So pathetic. Just lusting after the power he's had for 50 years.
I honestly don't even know if Biden really cares if he wins or now. I have a feeling OTHER people convinced him to run. He is bought and paid for so he would be the easiest for the Establishment to manipulate. I am sure China is foaming at the mouth at the though of Joe "China is no threat' Biden.
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