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Old 06-30-2019, 08:14 PM
Status: "81 Years, NOT 91 Felonies" (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Blah, blah, blah. It's not a "rant". It's reality. I don't buy liberal lies anymore when they try to pretend that isn't what their after. You think I came up with that myself? No. It's been seen and heard plenty of times, so spare me the "that's not true" bs. What I said is exactly what is going on.
Bullsh! This post below IS a rant.

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Death is clearly the goal. There was a thread about "useless people" and there are posts about "useless people" just in the last couple of days. Further, some years back, on this forum, I wrote a post that quoted all kinds of people (who are part of organizations that claim to care about the earth) who come right out and say that they want less people on this planet.
Uh, really? Where did you hear that scientist, leaders, etc. were trying to murder people in order to achieve lower population. Got news for you, mere sub-replacement birth rates is not murder, it's just reproducing at rates below the death rate. It's simple math. Births - deaths = natural change in population (increase or decrease).

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By attempting to dehumanize anyone who thinks differently, votes differently, speaks differently, it's a slow build up to getting people to believe that "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others". It's straight up Orwellian.
Sounds like Trump when he demeans and belittles anybody who disagrees with by mocking -- their feminine reproductive functions (Megyn Kelly?), their alleged or real unattractiveness (Carly Fiorina, among others), their P.O.W. status (John McCain), The New York Times reporter when he jerked his body around, saying we could use more immigrants from Norway when plenty from India and China and other non-European areas are more than happy to come here, especially when juxtaposed against his s***hole countries statement (how is that not racist?), "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering this country" (Ditto, unless you can show me the nuance in this statement beyond it's face-value literal meaning).

If "dehumanize anyone who thinks differently, votes differently, speaks differently," is your litmus test, then Trump is doing more to dehumanize others than any president certainly in my lifetime. For any sitting chief executive at the state level, he sounds like early 1960s Mississippi governor Ross Barnett. Or David Duke with even less spit-and-polish during his 1991 campaign.

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Some will deny, just like they did back in the 90s when they pretended that they weren't pushing the idea that females are better than males, on college campuses, that white Europeans are the reason for the entire world's ills - I know, some of my very own professors said that nonsense.
Tell me which professor is pushing the idea that females are better than males? And if so, better at what? So far, all I see in this is just traditionalist Kool-Aid. All that's being asked is that women get equal pay for equal work, adequate time-off (and fathers in equal measure, too) to take care of newborns and not worry about losing their job, insurance, etc., and to adjust cultural attitudes so that sexualization of people is more severely frowned upon as dehumanizing, rather than use some reptilian-brainstem-impulse "it's nature" argument.

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They always do this. They start out very slowly, see what they can get away with saying, find the line, stay there for a bit waiting for people to "get used to the idea", push again, find the line, stay and wait for people to get "used to the idea", push again, find the line...that's what these people do.
See my first comment. Trump qualifies, although conservatives have been pushing this since the very beginnings of their slow resurgence in the late 70s.

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Of course they want to get rid of capitalism, of course they want to take away our inalienable rights, (boy do they try to deny that one despite all of the evidence that has been shown, repeatedly, over and over again), but they really want people to just die until it's just them. Everyone else is "useless".

Then, they will get their so called utopia, the "world will be saved", they won't have to deal with anyone questioning their ideologies, they will control everything - or so they think.

Until their very own turn on them, next. Idiots.
Eh, nobody aside from Bob Avakian and his ilk (who are marginal even by modern leftist standards) want to abolish private ownership of the means of production. If most of "the left" don't want to do that, then by definition they are not wanting to get rid of capitalism.

Take away our inalienable rights to do what? Life, liberty and pursuit of happiness? Conservatives have done this on numerous occasions: opposed workers rights since the 19th century, opposed women's right to vote, integrate society, LGBT rights (even aside from marriage) --- opposed family medical leave, opposed strict workplace and consumer product safety, and (at least since Nixon, a rare acknowledgement of a conservative seeing the need for more government regulation of business and industry) anti-pollution measures that'll "cost businesses money".

So yes, your post does read like a rant.
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Old 06-30-2019, 08:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Corrie22 View Post
Apr 22, 2019
Unreliable Nature Of Solar And Wind Makes Electricity More Expensive, New Study Finds

Solar panels and wind turbines are making electricity significantly more expensive, a major new study by a team of economists from the University of Chicago finds.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michael.../#17244b084f59

=============
JUNE 3, 2019
Study Finds Wind and Solar 2 to 3 Times More Expensive Than Existing Generation Resources

https://www.instituteforenergyresear...ion-resources/

==========
Feb 8, 2019
The average LCOEs from existing coal ($41), cc gas ($36), nuclear ($33), and hydro ($38) resources are less than half the cost of new wind resources ($90) or new PV solar resources ($88.7) with imposed costs included.

https://canadafreepress.com/images/u...IER060419A.jpg
Of course it is more expensive, and it will continue to be pushed in the name of the greater good. The reality is that the air, water and land will continue to be polluted. But green energy is a good business opportunity for big capitalists who can get politics to ban cheap energy.

I wouldn't be surprised if countries who refuse to buy green energy technology will get sanctions in the future. That's the delusion of "free market". For European it is buying gas from the US than the cheaper Russian alternative. Most third world countries are conned and pushed to get huge loans on more expensive green energy making it even harder to get out of poverty.

Please fix your links.
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Old 06-30-2019, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Renewable energy is coming down in price

By 2020, however, renewables are expected to cost $0.03 - $0.10 per kilowatt hour, with the price of onshore wind power and solar photovoltaic (PV) projects expected to be as low as $0.03 per kilowatt hour by 2019.

https://www.businessinsider.com/rene...by-2020-2018-1

Energy sources in the US (2017)

Natural gas—31.8%
Petroleum (crude oil and natural gas plant liquids)—28.0%
Coal—17.8%
Renewable energy—12.7%
Nuclear electric power—9.6%
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Old 06-30-2019, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Bullsh! This post below IS a rant.



Uh, really? Where did you hear that scientist, leaders, etc. were trying to murder people in order to achieve lower population. Got news for you, mere sub-replacement birth rates is not murder, it's just reproducing at rates below the death rate. It's simple math. Births - deaths = natural change in population (increase or decrease).



Sounds like Trump when he demeans and belittles anybody who disagrees with by mocking -- their feminine reproductive functions (Megyn Kelly?), their alleged or real unattractiveness (Carly Fiorina, among others), their P.O.W. status (John McCain), The New York Times reporter when he jerked his body around, saying we could use more immigrants from Norway when plenty from India and China and other non-European areas are more than happy to come here, especially when juxtaposed against his s***hole countries statement (how is that not racist?), "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering this country" (Ditto, unless you can show me the nuance in this statement beyond it's face-value literal meaning).

If "dehumanize anyone who thinks differently, votes differently, speaks differently," is your litmus test, then Trump is doing more to dehumanize others than any president certainly in my lifetime. For any sitting chief executive at the state level, he sounds like early 1960s Mississippi governor Ross Barnett. Or David Duke with even less spit-and-polish during his 1991 campaign.



Tell me which professor is pushing the idea that females are better than males? And if so, better at what? So far, all I see in this is just traditionalist Kool-Aid. All that's being asked is that women get equal pay for equal work, adequate time-off (and fathers in equal measure, too) to take care of newborns and not worry about losing their job, insurance, etc., and to adjust cultural attitudes so that sexualization of people is more severely frowned upon as dehumanizing, rather than use some reptilian-brainstem-impulse "it's nature" argument.



See my first comment. Trump qualifies, although conservatives have been pushing this since the very beginnings of their slow resurgence in the late 70s.



Eh, nobody aside from Bob Avakian and his ilk (who are marginal even by modern leftist standards) want to abolish private ownership of the means of production. If most of "the left" don't want to do that, then by definition they are not wanting to get rid of capitalism.

Take away our inalienable rights to do what? Life, liberty and pursuit of happiness? Conservatives have done this on numerous occasions: opposed workers rights since the 19th century, opposed women's right to vote, integrate society, LGBT rights (even aside from marriage) --- opposed family medical leave, opposed strict workplace and consumer product safety, and (at least since Nixon, a rare acknowledgement of a conservative seeing the need for more government regulation of business and industry) anti-pollution measures that'll "cost businesses money".

So yes, your post does read like a rant.
Doesn't matter what it sounds like, it's reality. Maybe some people should climb out from under their rocks and pay attention to what people say in all kinds of places. Spare me your long winded nonsense.
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Old 07-01-2019, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Central Washington
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Renewable energy is coming down in price

By 2020, however, renewables are expected to cost $0.03 - $0.10 per kilowatt hour, with the price of onshore wind power and solar photovoltaic (PV) projects expected to be as low as $0.03 per kilowatt hour by 2019.

https://www.businessinsider.com/rene...by-2020-2018-1

Energy sources in the US (2017)

Natural gas—31.8%
Petroleum (crude oil and natural gas plant liquids)—28.0%
Coal—17.8%
Renewable energy—12.7%
Nuclear electric power—9.6%
Does that 3-10 cents per kWh include the price of the backup generation needed for when wind and solar fail, as they did in North Dakota and Minnesota in January? https://energynews.us/2019/02/27/mid...idwest-debate/

Or the waste disposal for the solar panels that contain toxic metals and chemicals, and the 66,000+ pounds of fiberglass blades in a wind turbine?

These three studies show that "renewables" still cost more than traditional sources.

University of Chicago. https://epic.uchicago.edu/research/p...ndards-deliver

American Experiment. https://www.americanexperiment.org/2...tes-minnesota/

Institute for Energy Research. https://www.instituteforenergyresear...ion-resources/

It's also worth noting that viable, grid scale electricity storage is still a long way off.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...n-up-the-grid/
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Old 07-01-2019, 10:20 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Corrie22 View Post
Apr 22, 2019
Unreliable Nature Of Solar And Wind Makes Electricity More Expensive, New Study Finds

Solar panels and wind turbines are making electricity significantly more expensive, a major new study by a team of economists from the University of Chicago finds.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michael.../#17244b084f59

=============
JUNE 3, 2019
Study Finds Wind and Solar 2 to 3 Times More Expensive Than Existing Generation Resources

https://www.instituteforenergyresear...ion-resources/

==========
Feb 8, 2019
The average LCOEs from existing coal ($41), cc gas ($36), nuclear ($33), and hydro ($38) resources are less than half the cost of new wind resources ($90) or new PV solar resources ($88.7) with imposed costs included.

https://canadafreepress.com/images/u...IER060419A.jpg
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Old 07-01-2019, 10:41 AM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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^^^

@Corrie22

If your post was supposed to fix the broken links, it didn't work. They are still broken.
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Old 07-01-2019, 11:09 AM
 
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don't know why it does that sometimes.....try again...if this doesn't work I give up

Forbes > https://www.forbes.com/sites/michael.../#6b31ba274f59

IER > https://www.instituteforenergyresear...ion-resources/

CFS > https://canadafreepress.com/images/u...IER060419A.jpg
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Old 07-01-2019, 06:38 PM
 
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It's been less than 1 inch a decade...for over 100 years mom...nothing has changed...global warming didn't speed it up

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl..._meantrend.png

..and that picture was flooding from rain...just like the whole rest of the world does

Mom, the news media is all about click bait....they just regurgitate the same tired stories over and over..knowing a certain amount of people will click on it
..and make no effort to even be accurate

they even post fake pictures...that picture is fresh water flooding from rain...after some hurricane....which has been happening long before people even came to Florida

Last edited by Corrie22; 07-01-2019 at 07:00 PM..
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Old 07-01-2019, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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It's been less than 1 inch a decade...for over 100 years mom...nothing has changed...global warming didn't speed it up

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl..._meantrend.png

..and that picture was flooding from rain...just like the whole rest of the world does

Mom, the news media is all about click bait....they just regurgitate the same tired stories over and over..knowing a certain amount of people will click on it
..and make no effort to even be accurate

they even post fake pictures...that picture is fresh water flooding from rain...after some hurricane....which has been happening long before people even came to Florida
A sea level rise of an inch per decade is a lot in areas like South Florida.

https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-04-...climate-change
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