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Old 07-05-2019, 10:06 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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This is more of a legal question than a political one: if the 2000 U.S. Census includes a question about citizenship, what will happen if I don't fill out that one question?

Just for the record, I am a citizen and the government is already aware of that.
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Old 07-05-2019, 10:10 AM
 
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If you refuse to give out the information or you deliberately give inaccurate information, you can be in legal trouble. According to United States Code, Title 13 (Census), Chapter 7 (Offenses and Penalties), SubChapter II, if you're over 18 and refuse to answer all or part of the Census, you can be fined up to $100. If you give false answers, you're subject to a fine of up to $500. If you offer suggestions or information with the "intent to cause inaccurate enumeration of population," you are subject to a fine of up to $1,000, up to a year in prison, or both. Here's the official verbiage:

https://people.howstuffworks.com/question345.htm
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Old 07-05-2019, 10:14 AM
 
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This is more of a legal question than a political one: if the 2000 U.S. Census includes a question about citizenship, what will happen if I don't fill out that one question?

Just for the record, I am a citizen and the government is already aware of that.
Whether you will be held criminally liable for not answering the question is uncertain, but if the 2020 Census includes a citizenship question after the SCOTUS has ruled on it, that will mean the country is in a full blown constitutional crisis.
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Old 07-05-2019, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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I’ve never filled one out because in the end it doesn’t make a difference. People lie on them anyways.
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Old 07-05-2019, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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This is more of a legal question than a political one: if the 2000 U.S. Census includes a question about citizenship, what will happen if I don't fill out that one question?

Just for the record, I am a citizen and the government is already aware of that.
I have always been, shall we say, selective about what I answer. The government has the right to know how many people live in what residence. That information is required for assigning representation and electoral votes. As far as knowing what race is there, what the income level is or what a person's ancestry or job is-none of that is relevant, nor anyone's business. Aside from that-they long since know anyway. Citizenship-yes, since ONLY US CITIZENS are able to vote in national elections.
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Old 07-05-2019, 12:04 PM
 
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My wife worked the census twice. Many people just refuse to talk to them and nothing is done.
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Old 07-05-2019, 12:29 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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If you refuse to give out the information or you deliberately give inaccurate information, you can be in legal trouble. According to United States Code, Title 13 (Census), Chapter 7 (Offenses and Penalties), SubChapter II, if you're over 18 and refuse to answer all or part of the Census, you can be fined up to $100. If you give false answers, you're subject to a fine of up to $500. If you offer suggestions or information with the "intent to cause inaccurate enumeration of population," you are subject to a fine of up to $1,000, up to a year in prison, or both. Here's the official verbiage:

https://people.howstuffworks.com/question345.htm
Thanks. I suppose then the best tactic is to just not answer that one question, and take the $100 hit if necessary.
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Old 07-05-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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This is more of a legal question than a political one: if the 2000 U.S. Census includes a question about citizenship, what will happen if I don't fill out that one question?

Just for the record, I am a citizen and the government is already aware of that.
The 2000 Census DID have that exact question. How did you answer it in 2000?

Article from January 2010 ....

“It appears that this is the first census to omit this inquiry. Question 13 of the 2000 census form specifically asked the following.:

Is this person a CITIZEN of the United States?

-Yes, born in the United States—>Skip to 15a

-Yes, born in Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, or Northern Marianas

-Yes, born abroad of American parent or parents

-Yes, a U.S. citizen by naturalization

-No, not a citizen of the United States”

https://m.washingtontimes.com/blog/w...-asked-census/
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Old 07-05-2019, 12:49 PM
 
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I have always been, shall we say, selective about what I answer. The government has the right to know how many people live in what residence. That information is required for assigning representation and electoral votes. As far as knowing what race is there, what the income level is or what a person's ancestry or job is-none of that is relevant, nor anyone's business. Aside from that-they long since know anyway. Citizenship-yes, since ONLY US CITIZENS are able to vote in national elections.
If the citizenship question does make it on to the form ... I expect they would only count the checked Citizens for the apportionment.
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Old 07-05-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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Whether you will be held criminally liable for not answering the question is uncertain, but if the 2020 Census includes a citizenship question after the SCOTUS has ruled on it, that will mean the country is in a full blown constitutional crisis.
Odds are Slim and None that the Census will contain a question to count Citizens that SCOTUS does not bless.
It may happen, but if it does, it will go through SCOTUS or another Federal Court.
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