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Old 07-13-2019, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by whogo View Post
The only real problem is health care costs and neither party is willing to do what it takes to get that under control.
That's because it's a State issue and not a federal issue.

The Supreme Court has repeated ruled for more than a century that medical care and insurance are intra-State commerce and Congress has no authority.

The States enacted laws enabling hospitals to operate as monopolies under the guise that the free healthcare provided to low-income patients outweighs the negative economic consequences of monopolies.

Only the States can repeal those laws.

Unless and until the States repeal those laws, then pursue anti-trust actions against hospital monopolies, you will always pay more than the rest of the world, regardless of the system you use.

It is the high cost of medical care that causes insurance to cost more.

If you want cheaper insurance, then you must lower the cost of medical care.

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To keep the current programs solvent there will have to be huge tax increases, yet they keep offering more goodies for votes.
That's false propaganda and disinformation.

The FICA Payroll Tax only needs to be increased 1.8%-2.2%.

The Silent Generation suffered a 520% increase in FICA taxes to make sure Social Security will be there for them. That is a huge tax increase.

The Boomers endured a 72% FICA payroll tax increase to make sure Social Security will be there for them. That is a large increase, not a huge increase.

If Generations X, Y and Z can't handle a 35.5% maximum increase to make Social Security is there for them, then might I suggest 100 feet of 5/16" cotton braided cord or Gillette Silver Blues.

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I have read about all the unfunded liabilities for Social Security liabilities, Medicare liabilities, state and local pension liabilities and it certainly seems like alot of promises have been made that there isn't an adaquate revenue stream for.
You haven't read anything.

Social Security and Medicare operate on the same principal using basic 6th Grade Math:

Revenues = # of Workers * Tax Rate * Wages

We know from our 6th Grade Math that if we increase any multiplier, then the product increases and if we decrease any multiplier, the product decreases.

Increasing Wages will not solve Social Security's problem, since benefits are based on Wages. Increase Wages and you simultaneously increase benefits.

Increasing Wages will only work if you also cut Social Security benefits by at least 15%.

Increasing the # of Workers is impossible.

You're short 11 Million workers.

If the 5.5 Million currently unemployed workers all had jobs by 8:00 AM tomorrow, and your military invaded and bombed foreign countries, kidnapped 5.5 Million people, brought them back to the US and got jobs for them by 8:00 AM tomorrow, and your Unemployment Rate was 0% for the next 100 years, then your problem is solved.

Seeing how you'd have to spend $TRILLIONS to invade foreign countries, it would just be easier to raise the FICA tax rate 1.8%-2.2%.

The would be the last tax increase ever needed and it would be funded for the next 200 years.

Why?

Because when Social Security started in 1940 there were 159.4 workers for each beneficiary.

Now you only have 2.8 workers for each beneficiary. That will drop to 2.2:1 to 2.0:1 but the good news is it will be that way for the next 100-200 years.

Medicare is different, because medical technology is inherently expensive, since there is no Economy of Scale.

There are no assembly lines around the World mass-producing parts for MRIs and CAT scanners or mass-producing MRI machines or CAT scanners.

They are made to order, like a Bentley, or the components for your electrical grid, and they're very expensive because of that.

Government and union pension plans are all Ponzi-schemes. The only way to fix them is have a forensic accountant analyze them, then file legal action for a judge to rescind or modify the plan so that it is no longer a Ponzi-scheme.

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As a financial guru, ...
No one takes you seriously.

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If one was able to understand numbers, they might look at this Big Picture and understand why money from all over the world heads this way:

"The financial position of the United States includes assets of at least $269.6 trillion (1576% of GDP) and debts of $145.8 trillion (852% of GDP) to produce a net worth of at least $123.8 trillion (723% of GDP) as of Q1 2014."
That is not why and I certainly hope you're not suggesting the US will put the White House and the Capitol Building up for sale, or any of the federal parks or federal lands.
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Old 07-13-2019, 01:32 PM
 
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Life-Expectancy from Birth isn't a factor and never was a factor, not ever.

Both Medicare and Social Security have always been based on Life-Expectancy from Age 65, which has constantly increased and never decreased.
What is the life expectancy from age 65 defined as? Is it a number starting at zero if you die at 65? Or can it be a negative number if you die at 55?

Because if a worker pays into Medicare and SS until age 55 and then dies, that surely shores up the system.

Whereas if someone works until 65, then retires for 30 years then they probably take out more than they put in.

A person who dies at age 20 without ever contributing is neutral, so I can see that life expectancy from birth would be skewed by that. But what about expectancy from age of first employment?
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Old 07-13-2019, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Unfunded Medicare promises: $54.9 Trillion
Unfunded Social Security Promises:bb $36.5 Trillion
Publicly held debt: $15.8 Trillion
Pension & retiree healthcare liabilities: $8.0 Trillion
Other liabilities: $1.6 Trillion

Total bill: $116.9 Trillion

I just can’t see how the nation can remain financial solvent that much longer with this much debt. If you were to estimate, how much time before the financial ticking bomb goes off.
It's an interesting question. Printing money didn't work for Germany in the 1920's and hasn't worked other places it has been tried, but this country's economy is just too big. The printing of money and selling of debt doesn't seem to have done much to hurt us...….so far.
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