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Old 07-11-2019, 01:42 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Wasps are also declining.
Finally some good environmental news for a change.
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Old 07-11-2019, 01:47 PM
 
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Finally some good environmental news for a change.
Well, as much as I despise wasps (stupid insects don't die if they sting you, gah. At least with bees, they have some repercussions, so more likely to sting less.), they do serve as pollinators too.

Figs are one kind of plant pollinated by wasps in a weird way. Good thing I don't like them since you usually are unknowingly eating some wasps along with your fig.

https://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/po...ls/wasps.shtml
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Old 07-11-2019, 01:51 PM
 
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If the commercial honeybee is vital to farming, why aren't farmers paying for their own research into what is causing declining populations? Why does any level of government need to add any funding?
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Old 07-11-2019, 02:45 PM
 
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. . . and by framing it with that premise built in, you show once again you want a confrontation and not a discussion.

Just admit it, you hate Trump voters more than you're concerned about this issue. Every post you make trying to deny it just confirms it.
Both are true. I hate Trump voters AND I'm extremely concerned about this issue. And later, when this becomes a very huge issue, every Trump voter crying and saying they didn't know deserves to be ridiculed because they knew. They knew about all of this and they do not care. I'm also waiting for the "Well I didn't agree about that one particular thing". There are no Trump voters "not agreeing" about anything. They don't get to pretend later that they didn't agree.
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Old 07-11-2019, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Both are true. I hate Trump voters AND I'm extremely concerned about this issue. And later, when this becomes a very huge issue, every Trump voter crying and saying they didn't know deserves to be ridiculed because they knew. They knew about all of this and they do not care. I'm also waiting for the "Well I didn't agree about that one particular thing". There are no Trump voters "not agreeing" about anything. They don't get to pretend later that they didn't agree.
Jesus Christ. You need some firm footing.
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Old 07-11-2019, 02:57 PM
 
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Jesus Christ. You need some firm footing.
Why? How many posts are here saying they hate Democrats? That seems to be perfectly acceptable. I think Trump supporters are dangerous, destructive, short-sighted and numerous other things. Specific to this particular thread, their devotion to Trump above all other things means they don't care about the things that are actually destructive to humans. The decline of honeybees is a very dangerous thing and their response is to laugh, ridicule and make jokes. In the end, the paltry money saved on not doing four studies (and probably all studies as long as Trump is there) will cost exceedingly more trying to repair the damage. As a taxpayer and a parent that wants a healthy world for my children, Trump supporters IMO are dangerous.
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Old 07-11-2019, 02:58 PM
 
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Both are true. I hate Trump voters AND I'm extremely concerned about this issue. And later, when this becomes a very huge issue, every Trump voter crying and saying they didn't know deserves to be ridiculed because they knew. They knew about all of this and they do not care. I'm also waiting for the "Well I didn't agree about that one particular thing". There are no Trump voters "not agreeing" about anything. They don't get to pretend later that they didn't agree.
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Old 07-11-2019, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Why? How many posts are here saying they hate Democrats? That seems to be perfectly acceptable. I think Trump supporters are dangerous, destructive, short-sighted and numerous other things. Specific to this particular thread, their devotion to Trump above all other things means they don't care about the things that are actually destructive to humans. The decline of honeybees is a very dangerous thing and their response is to laugh, ridicule and make jokes. In the end, the paltry money saved on not doing four studies (and probably all studies as long as Trump is there) will cost exceedingly more trying to repair the damage. As a taxpayer and a parent that wants a healthy world for my children, Trump supporters IMO are dangerous.
I’m not at liberty at this forum to offer you my unfettered take on your attitude. Suffice to say, I feel that you are very eaten up with hatred and intolerance, and I suspect you were this way long before Trump, and will still be this way long after Trump.
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Old 07-11-2019, 03:03 PM
 
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If the commercial honeybee is vital to farming, why aren't farmers paying for their own research into what is causing declining populations? Why does any level of government need to add any funding?
Probably because they are broke.
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Old 07-11-2019, 03:11 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Aside from being outrageously corrupt and sociopathic, Trump is a very dumb person and has given hope to other dummies of the nation that they too can cheat and lie their way into high places and garner stolen goods.

If the environment collapses to the point of being incapable of sustaining so called humans, it will be a good day for the Earth because the human parasites will not be around to prevent it from healing and regenerating.
let's assume every honeybee in north America dies. they were never native here in the first place.
so how will that cause the environment to collapse?

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The GMO crops are killing the bees, butterflies, birds.
Thank Monsanto.


https://www.organicconsumers.org/ess...lies-birds-and


When the honeybees, our most important food pollinators, started dropping like proverbial flies, scientists scrambled to identify their killer (or killers). Attention eventually turned to the increased use of a class of pesticides known as neonicotinoids. Scientists now believe at least some of these pesticides play a major role in Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD), the ongoing demise of honeybee colonies


https://www.naturalnews.com/050993_f..._Monsanto.html
Monsanto wants to replace the bees they are killing with genetically engineered flying ants
oh lordy. please stay away from 'natural noose'. they are scientifically illiterate psychopaths. that nutty claim about genetically modified ants has been around for years. it's sourced from a clearly stated satire site, 'world news daily.' natural noose was either too stupid to notice, or just doesn't care.

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-mo...ed-ants.t6369/

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With that being the case, why do Republicans continue to insist on letting Monsanto do whatever they want unchecked? The idea of them releasing genetically engineered ants into the wild sounds like the beginning of a dystopian horror movie.
see above, bawacky. and then calm down.

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And Trump's people aren't even doing the studies. Instead, they are expanding the use of pesticides.
'trump's people'? when did all of USDA start voting republican?

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well well well
Its use was temporarily barred after a lawsuit from beekeepers in 2015, but the EPA in 2016 changed its instructions for how to use the pesticide in a way regulators say will reduce the impact on bees.

Why did the previous POTUS not put a halt to this?
well, well, well, indeed. very interesting. can't wait to hear the OP tear into Obama over that one.

oh, wait...

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Maybe if you hadn't launched into full shrieking-lunatic TDS mode right out of the gate and just discussed the issue on its own merits, you might have gotten more people to pay attention to the issue. Instead, you only pretend to care more about the issue than Trump supporters when in reality you only care to the extent it gives you a platform to belch out yet another Tourette outburst about Trump supporters.
yep, very much like the threads he starts supposedly lamenting how trump is destroying farmers, then after a few posts he admits that he hopes they all suffer horribly since they probably voted for trump anyway

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Well, as much as I despise wasps (stupid insects don't die if they sting you, gah. At least with bees, they have some repercussions, so more likely to sting less.), they do serve as pollinators too.

Figs are one kind of plant pollinated by wasps in a weird way. Good thing I don't like them since you usually are unknowingly eating some wasps along with your fig.

https://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/po...ls/wasps.shtml
yeah, they [wasps] can be useful pollinators. and those fig wasps are too tiny to even sting you.

last but not least.

Despite Elevated Loss Rate Since 2006, U.S. Honey Bee Colony Numbers Are Stable
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