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Old 08-13-2019, 06:06 PM
 
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Then if we are talking present day than it negates the previous posters claim that white Americans share some sort of “European” culture.
America is some sort of "European" derived culture, largely British, most Americans share dur.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:22 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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The Greeks, Egyptians, Romans, and some others had advanced civilization way before the Europeans. Although the Romans were European, but their empire extended to the known world at the time.
You don't think of the Greeks as European!? I don't know when the modern boundaries of Europe were first 'drawn' but ancient Greece was the first European superstate and that was a lot longer than 500 years ago!
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:00 AM
 
Location: New York
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Ten pages deep when we only needed two sentences:

The races of the world evolved separate and apart over tens of thousands of years. This is why whites and Asians are more advanced (harsh northern climates breeds discipline and inteligence) while blacks and browns are not (food literally falls off trees in their homelands).
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:32 AM
 
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What ever the Europeans were doing to grow in knowledge etc and advance the world, several idiots came out of that and made a mess - such as Mussolini. C Marx, Hitler, and maybe some I missed. The bureaucracy is insane. The state is more important than its people and England and Rome love to commit genocides like in Africa and India. I’m not sure got too much to brag about
You do realize committing genocide is not exclusive to white Europeans, right?
Attempted and actual genocides have been going on in Africa forever, even as recently the 1990's (that we even hear about).
The same is true in the orient where some of the worst massacres such as what Pol Pot did. So it is not the race that matters as much as it is the radical ideology that spawns it. In almost every case it has been socialism/communism that leads to it.

As to white supremacy in general, in the public lexicon, it means something sinister because the average white supremacist is an idiot fueled by hate, yet thinks of himself as part of the "superior" white Eurocentric culture.
In reality skinheads and Klan members are intellectually inferior to the collective people they claim to be a part of, based on nothing more than skin color.
If they were to try and hold an intelligent conversation with say Dr. Ben Carson, they would be severely outmatched, and only his civility would keep them talking for a few minutes.

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Old 08-14-2019, 08:45 AM
 
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Ten pages deep when we only needed two sentences:

The races of the world evolved separate and apart over tens of thousands of years. This is why whites and Asians are more advanced (harsh northern climates breeds discipline and inteligence) while blacks and browns are not (food literally falls off trees in their homelands).
Don't you know natural selection and differential evolution created physiological differences everywhere except in the brain .
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:52 AM
 
Location: NC
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why did Europe become more advanced around 1500?
Because they got to write the History books. It's that simple.

There have been different groups who "led the world" throughout the course of history. That the Europeans were at the helm at the time when history really started being recorded has much to do with it.


Right time, right place?
Or they made it happen?

We can debate that forever...
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:10 AM
 
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On the topic of white supremacy, why did Europe become more advanced around 1500?


If we know anything about Europe in 1500, it's that the average person in Europe was living in squalor. Average life expectancy varied locally between 30 and 40 years.

But mercantilism was on the rise, and more modern sailing vessels made it possible to land grab and people grab around the world, most of the wealth making it's way back into Europe. Unevenly distributed wealth, of course.

Even as late as the mid-19th century, the peasants of eastern Europe in many places lived in deeper poverty and squalor than most slaves living in north America. Progress, education and prosperity was not shared by everyone in Europe.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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On the topic of white supremacy, why did Europe become more advanced around 1500?


If we know anything about Europe in 1500, it's that the average person in Europe was living in squalor. Average life expectancy varied locally between 30 and 40 years.

But mercantilism was on the rise, and more modern sailing vessels made it possible to land grab and people grab around the world, most of the wealth making it's way back into Europe. Unevenly distributed wealth, of course.

Even as late as the mid-19th century, the peasants of eastern Europe in many places lived in deeper poverty and squalor than most slaves living in north America. Progress, education and prosperity was not shared by everyone in Europe.
Yup. There are reason why there were folks from supposedly advanced European civilization were leaving their ****hole countries, to paraphrase a present day phrase. Wars, poverty, famine, political unrest, persecution.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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This is probably too complicated of a question with the answers buried in time for anyone to really answer.

I personally think Europeans have long been highly intelligent, and just as importantly creative and inquisitive. Their rise was probably a lot longer than the past 500 years in the making and their circumstances held it back.

I'm more fascinated or interested in the dismantling of the European people's fortunes and culture since about 1915 but especially since the 1940s. Europeans seem to be perpetually saddled with bad leadership and detrimental characters within their mix.
Isn't that the truth! In short: Joseph McCarthy was right - communists have completely taken over and are in the process of genocide.
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:26 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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I personally think Europeans have long been highly intelligent, and just as importantly creative and inquisitive. Their rise was probably a lot longer than the past 500 years in the making and their circumstances held it back.
If this is true why did it take Europeans so long to become civilized? The Egyptians, Mesopotamians, Chinese and Indians were creating advanced civilizations for thousands of years before any semblance of advanced civilization ever showed up in Europe.
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