CA Dems Please Chime In: 2020; Kamala Harris, Issues (compare, economic, examples)

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by sav858

I know, why on earth would you pick a polarizing candidate from a state that you're more than guaranteed to win anyways? WTF strategy are they going with?

He must have thought that Abrams would be too polarizing, meaning--she'd really fire up the Repub hysteria. This, in spite of the fact that the conventional "wisdom" used to be to have a Veep from the South, to bring in that vote. IMO the pretty clear choice after that, was Klobuchar. But no, I guess he still wanted to go for a running mate who could bring out the minority vote, as it were.

The opposing camp is really going to get down and dirty with this one. Ugh. I'm glad I don't have a TV. I can ignore the inevitable slinging of mud.

[Ruth4Truth]

And btw, a bit off-topic perhaps, it's outrageous the way Abrams had the governorship snatched out from under her. There was no hue and cry about irregularities, or anything. People just rolled over and died. She's a major talent. People should be angry. Even 4 years after the fact.

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

OK, I can see why he didn't choose Abrams, even though I think she might have helped him create the landslide he needs in order to win, given the realities of Repub. vote suppression. But Klobuchar has a record of being a sort of bridge candidate, garnering moderate-Repub. support. And she'd be harder to attack and drag through the mud than the current choice.


Jeez. The Dems were basically handed an election on a silver platter, and look how it turned out. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!


*sighhhhhhhhh* And now we'll be stuck with voting for this circus. You know, like the popular (for awhile) slogan said, "LITERALLY, anyone else!" Turns out, it's not quite so simple.

Welcome to my world.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by sav858

Based on what?

Based on her years and years of demonstrating success in manipulating people and situations, if nothing else.

Like it or not, she ran city prosecutor’s offices and state attorney general office with no scandals or professional controversies to speak of - OTHER THAN controversial political posturing and some prosecutorial decisions ... where controversial political and prosecutorial choices come with the territory no matter who what where when. There are always going to be people who disagree (including me and you and Ruth) with decisions while others agree with the same.

Again: proof is sitting in the Oval office ... and in his case: he is NOT a competent executive and couldn’t run a shoe-shine stand let alone a nation.

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Based on her years and years of demonstrating success in manipulating people and situations, if nothing else.

Like it or not, she ran city prosecutor’s offices and state attorney general office with no scandals or professional controversies to speak of - OTHER THAN controversial political posturing and some prosecutorial decisions ... where controversial political and prosecutorial choices come with the territory no matter who what where when. There are always going to be people who disagree (including me and you and Ruth) with decisions while others agree with the same.

Again: proof is sitting in the Oval office ... and in his case: he is NOT a competent executive and couldn’t run a shoe-shine stand let alone a nation.

I don’t know, seems like your saying she’s better because she’s more conniving. Normally I wouldn’t care, it’s a VP. However, considering who her running mate is, she’s probably going to be calling the shots if they win.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Based on her years and years of demonstrating success in manipulating people and situations, if nothing else.

Like it or not, she ran city prosecutor’s offices and state attorney general office with no scandals or professional controversies to speak of - OTHER THAN controversial political posturing and some prosecutorial decisions ... where controversial political and prosecutorial choices come with the territory no matter who what where when. There are always going to be people who disagree (including me and you and Ruth) with decisions while others agree with the same.

Again: proof is sitting in the Oval office ... and in his case: he is NOT a competent executive and couldn’t run a shoe-shine stand let alone a nation.

He could run a shoe-shine stand for as long as his line of credit lasted. Once he got behind in his payments & racked up too much debt (would you trust this man with your shoes?), that would be the end of it.

[apple92680]

Lifelong Democrat here. Latino. High School, Social Studies teacher. Grew up in Southern California, live in Palmdale.

Not sure what to make of Sen. Kamala Harris as the selection for VP candidate?

As a Senator from California, she's been great! As a VP candidate? Not sure how this will play out? Lots of strange factors going on here.

She's not as wildly popular among black voters as one would think she'd be. In fact, a number of black female co-workers seem to resent her because she's childless and they perceive her as having slept her way into power in SF.

There's also an overall resentment factor because of Kamala's educational success and political success, the whole "crabs in a bucket" thing, I suppose? Then there's the fact that she was a DA and a very ardent one at that! This, at a time when DAs offices are being nullified by radical left factions within the Democratic Party.

To compound the issue even further, having a Californian on the ticket may cripple the campaign. I love California. Born, raised and buried here! We are the state of innovation! ...but...the rest of the nation doesn't see us that way, sadly. Many outright resent us for our success and our Left Coast ways.

This will make for an interesting campaign season....pass the popcorn!

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Based on her years and years of demonstrating success in manipulating people and situations, if nothing else.

Like it or not, she ran city prosecutor’s offices and state attorney general office with no scandals or professional controversies to speak of - OTHER THAN controversial political posturing and some prosecutorial decisions ... where controversial political and prosecutorial choices come with the territory no matter who what where when. There are always going to be people who disagree (including me and you and Ruth) with decisions while others agree with the same.

Again: proof is sitting in the Oval office ... and in his case: he is NOT a competent executive and couldn’t run a shoe-shine stand let alone a nation.

That's a pretty bad standard for "competence" imo.

You may not consider these "scandals" or "controversies" but a lot of people do and the right will have a field day with them.

Crime lab scandal rocked Kamala Harris’s term as San Francisco district attorney

Feinstein's surprise call for death penalty puts D.A. on spot

Killings turn focus on S.F. sanctuary law


I'm amazed at how many Californians and even people in the Bay Area seem oblivious to her past or I guess they just don't care.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by apple92680

Lifelong Democrat here. Latino. High School, Social Studies teacher. Grew up in Southern California, live in Palmdale.

Not sure what to make of Sen. Kamala Harris as the selection for VP candidate?

As a Senator from California, she's been great! As a VP candidate? Not sure how this will play out? Lots of strange factors going on here.

She's not as wildly popular among black voters as one would think she'd be. In fact, a number of black female co-workers seem to resent her because she's childless and they perceive her as having slept her way into power in SF.

There's also an overall resentment factor because of Kamala's educational success and political success, the whole "crabs in a bucket" thing, I suppose? Then there's the fact that she was a DA and a very ardent one at that! This, at a time when DAs offices are being nullified by radical left factions within the Democratic Party.

To compound the issue even further, having a Californian on the ticket may cripple the campaign. I love California. Born, raised and buried here! We are the state of innovation! ...but...the rest of the nation doesn't see us that way, sadly. Many outright resent us for our success and our Left Coast ways.

This will make for an interesting campaign season....pass the popcorn!

Translation: we're screwed.

Thanks for your message to us from The Beyond, though.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by sav858

That's a pretty bad standard for "competence" imo.

You may not consider these "scandals" or "controversies" but a lot of people do and the right will have a field day with them.

Crime lab scandal rocked Kamala Harris’s term as San Francisco district attorney

Feinstein's surprise call for death penalty puts D.A. on spot

Killings turn focus on S.F. sanctuary law

Feinstein! Now there's an idea!


Oops. Too late.