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Old 09-11-2019, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Johnson raised the troop levels in VietNam from 75,000 to 548,000. He got over 30,000 troops killed. He was a warmonger, just like Kennedy.
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Old 09-11-2019, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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In other words, after America so miserably failed to stop communism from establishing itself in Cuba just 90 miles away, it needed the Vietnam War to prove to USSR and China that America was still willing to stand up against communism. I always thought it looked strange to allow communism to go on in Cuba while trying to stop it 10,000 miles away in Vietnam. President Kennedy's agreement with the USSR from the Cuban missile crisis probably explains why Cuba has to remain communist clear to this day.
Kennedy was boxed in and I think he did the best he could with what he was dealt with and probably paid for it with his life. Nixon also was boxed in, yet at least ended the war in Vietnam. Different times. Yet we've avoided nuclear war for all these years, so a success in my book, and the U.S. is still the most powerful country in the world.
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Old 09-11-2019, 03:08 PM
 
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In the beginning of the war when I was drafted I was in full support of the war, but after seeing the very large number of young Vietnam men walking around and letting US forces do the fighting and dying I stopped my support. And i feel the same today.
With that said no war can be fought with both hands tied behind ones back with no win rules of engagement set by politicians and PCness. Wars, no matter what the reason they are fought has to fought by the generals not by politicians or whiny civilians.
This is a fact not written in many history books. As well as many more, Rules of engagement.
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Old 09-11-2019, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Boston
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If the US wanted to win that war they would have done the same thing to Hanoi as we did to Nagasaki Japan.
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Old 09-11-2019, 03:39 PM
 
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If the US wanted to win that war they would have done the same thing to Hanoi as we did to Nagasaki Japan.
Not sure why starting WW3 would qualify as a win but whatever.
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Old 09-11-2019, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The minute we went there we lost. No one attacked our borders and there is nothing in the Constitution about nation building.
the minute that FDR split the country in two, we lost
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Old 09-11-2019, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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the minute that FDR split the country in two, we lost
No, both sides voted for Ho Chi Minh. America just didn't want to lose their puppet state.
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