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Old 10-23-2019, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Florida
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True Republicans saw through Donald Trump, and realized he was simply pretending to be a Republican to con the less informed, angrier elements within the party. They realize his values are not their values, and that he has caused immense damage to their beloved party.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXoc7E12q8A

If any segment of our population is able to remove this wart from our government, it will be influential Republicans, like the ones in this video. My hat is off to them for having the courage and integrity to speak out !
Under Obama , the IRS was used to go after conservative support groups. religious groups. Franklin Graham and Billy Graham were targets for their stand against Abortion.


Fact is the FBI , DOJ all of Obama's communist buddies, Brennan and the higher ups tried for two years to take out Trump with a fake dossier, lied to the courts to get FISA warrants saying it was verified yet Comey told Trump it was unverified.


The Republican establishment hated the Tea partiers.. the WE THE PEOPLE GRASS ROOTS members of congress. Ryan the Rino is bitter against Trump because he became president and Mitt Romney and Ryan lost to Obama.. they wanted to be president and so did McCain.. sour grapes.. but WE THE PEOPLE LOVE TRUMP because he is working for us , not Washington .Not the Socialists, not the Communists, not the Globalists. for US. AMERICANS!! WE DO NOT FEED ON COMMUNIST TOTALITARIAN FAKE NEWS . WE ARE NOT PROGRAMMED WITH INNUENDO, SPECULATION OR PROPAGANDA.
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Old 10-23-2019, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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In other words, they are representing their constituents. The horror.

BTW, Trump is often a Bozo. But a Bozo that promotes policies that I am for, is still better than a Bozo like Biden, that promotes policies that I am against. Or even a non-Bozo that promotes policies that I am against.
No, what Trump actually does is he SAYS he promotes those policies, but his actions are 180 out of phase when the rubber meets the road. He SAYS he wants a wall, even though he knows it is a farce and will never happen, but your side bought into it hook, line, and sinker. He says he wants a "big, beautiful healthcare plan"...……(whatever happened to that one ?) Lucky for him he inherited a strong economy from Obama, or he would be in deep doo doo by now.

Trump is all talk and no substance. Being an evidently intelligent, learned person, how you can look at him and not shake your head is beyond comprehension. He is nothing more than a carnival barker.
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Old 10-23-2019, 05:25 PM
 
Location: USA
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It still amazes me that these Elite Establishment OLD dogs have not figured out yet that both the Republican Party and the Democrat Party are DONE.

We have no idea what will emerge out of those Dead Parties yet .... but they are dead, the walking dead.
Let’s hope so. I am not optimistic. The Big Money supports the establishment of both parties.
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Old 10-23-2019, 05:28 PM
 
Location: USA
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If anyone remembers when Trump came on the scene, and announced he was running as a Republican, almost every GOP politician was 100% against him, and said the most condemning things about his honesty, character, and ethics. None of them wanted him, they knew what he was.

After he won, and gained some popularity, they all folded like a cheap suit to protect their own a$$es. They became gutless, spineless, cheerleaders and gave up any shred of dignity they once may have had. Over the past two years they have shown their true colors, and this shameless, despicable protest they held today during that hearing was right out of a banana republic playbook.

To see those Republicans breaking into an investigation shows how afraid they are. Make no mistake about it, they are all shaking in their boots, hoping that this entire Presidency doesn't collapse around them.

That display today was one of the lowest points in our American Democracy, and they should all be ashamed of what they did.
Oh, give me a break.

Trump gives tax cuts to the rich, guts labor and environmental protections, appoints conservative Supreme Court justices, and supports endless war. How is Trump any different than what the Republicans have always been?
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Old 10-23-2019, 05:35 PM
 
Location: USA
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but WE THE PEOPLE LOVE TRUMP because he is working for us , not Washington .Not the Socialists, not the Communists, not the Globalists. for US. AMERICANS!! WE DO NOT FEED ON COMMUNIST TOTALITARIAN FAKE NEWS . WE ARE NOT PROGRAMMED WITH INNUENDO, SPECULATION OR PROPAGANDA.


You made my day with that lunacy.
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Old 10-23-2019, 06:04 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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No, what Trump actually does is he SAYS he promotes those policies, but his actions are 180 out of phase when the rubber meets the road. He SAYS he wants a wall, even though he knows it is a farce and will never happen, but your side bought into it hook, line, and sinker. He says he wants a "big, beautiful healthcare plan"...……(whatever happened to that one ?) Lucky for him he inherited a strong economy from Obama, or he would be in deep doo doo by now.

Trump is all talk and no substance. Being an evidently intelligent, learned person, how you can look at him and not shake your head is beyond comprehension. He is nothing more than a carnival barker.
I dont think it is a farce. I think he is ineffective. He has no idea how to get things done in Washington. If it was a farce, he would be happy that his policies are not being enacted, only that doesn’t make any sense because he clearly wants to be re-elected. The best way to be re-elected is to make good on his promises. If he actually DID something that fixed the illegal immigration problem, or the health care issue, he would be sure to be re-elected, which is what he wants. So if he knew how to do it, it only makes sense that he would.

Try to look at it if it was the other way around. Would you rather have an ineffective president that espouses the policies that you like, or a president who WOULD be effective in enacting the policies that you don't like?
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Old 10-23-2019, 06:10 PM
 
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Leave to Don "I'm and independent" to present a fair review of the situation. LOL

Hey wait, wasn't that the same guy that essentially told us that gas prices are not the fault of a president, and then reversed his opinion 2 years later when a republican was in office? Why yes...yes it was.

So I have to ask, why are you guys responding to this thread and not utilizing the ignore feature?
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Old 10-23-2019, 06:15 PM
 
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I hope that when Trump is gone, the GOP will manage to pull itself together again. Preferably going back to pre-Gingrich days.
Nice wish, but I don't believe it ever will......'real' conservatives despise the Rino's more than they do democrats......
The party will remain, but not as it ever was. Most conservatives I know have long ago quit the party, but still vote R.
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Old 10-23-2019, 06:19 PM
 
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Oh, give me a break.

Trump gives tax cuts to the rich, guts labor and environmental protections, appoints conservative Supreme Court justices, and supports endless war. How is Trump any different than what the Republicans have always been?
1) The tax cut was for us, and I appreciated it!
2) I elected him to gut labor and the EPA
3) Ditto on SCOTUS
4) I don't think you're right there, didn't he just pull us out of Syria and declare that we will not be the world's policemen any longer?

So that's how he is different....he actually means what he says....
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Old 10-23-2019, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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True Republicans saw through Donald Trump, and realized he was simply pretending to be a Republican to con the less informed, angrier elements within the party. They realize his values are not their values, and that he has caused immense damage to their beloved party.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXoc7E12q8A

If any segment of our population is able to remove this wart from our government, it will be influential Republicans, like the ones in this video. My hat is off to them for having the courage and integrity to speak out !
Trump is going to be re-elected in a landslide
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