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Old 10-29-2019, 01:00 PM
 
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But unions are EVIL according to the right wingers here
Unions are evil if they force people to join. Anytime you use force except for self defense, you are the evil one.
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Old 10-29-2019, 01:20 PM
 
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Unions are evil if they force people to join. Anytime you use force except for self defense, you are the evil one.
So should the draft be abolished?
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Old 10-29-2019, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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You can make payments to hospitals to meet your deductible, interest free, and they'll take just about any amount per month.

People are way too dramatic.
OMG! I would like to see my husband's bill for his leukemia treatment. Actually, I don't think I would. We have paid very little. He's been in the hospital 13 times, the first time for 7 weeks; most recently for about two weeks. He's been on a special oncology until and a special bone marrow transplant unit. Some of the meds he's received cost 10s of thousands of dollars per dose! You have no idea how much hospitals cost to make a statement like that.
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Old 10-29-2019, 01:39 PM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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You can make payments to hospitals to meet your deductible, interest free, and they'll take just about any amount per month.

People are way too dramatic.
In NJ, after 6 or so months, they just go to court with a stack of garnishments to get rubber stamped by a judge. You find out when they take all of your paycheck.

Happened to my boss ($6K) and a friend (800K+ bill). AND for kicks and grins, the friend who obviously was never going to cough up 800K was hauled into court once a year just for giggles and to make sure the hospital had taken everything and that he still had nothing. This ended only when the statute of limitations was up.
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Old 10-29-2019, 01:42 PM
 
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In NJ, after 6 or so months, they just go to court with a stack of garnishments to get rubber stamped by a judge. You find out when they take all of your paycheck.

Happened to my boss ($6K) and a friend (800K+ bill). AND for kicks and grins, the friend who obviously was never going to cough up 800K was hauled into court once a year just for giggles and to make sure the hospital had taken everything and that he still had nothing. This ended only when the statute of limitations was up.
All this proves is this whole process is a joke and that gives people with those kinds of debts no incentives to move up and make more money that is known.. Reason being it would ALL go to the hospital. Why aren't we addressing why it cost this much now for these hospital services. Why are people wanting to keep the same system that does this?
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Old 10-29-2019, 02:13 PM
 
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Right, insurance is voluntary while UHC is compulsory. Nobody is against insurance.
We don't have UHC, so we can't know details about what would be voluntary, mandatory or choice.
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Old 10-29-2019, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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In NJ, after 6 or so months, they just go to court with a stack of garnishments to get rubber stamped by a judge. You find out when they take all of your paycheck.

Happened to my boss ($6K) and a friend (800K+ bill). AND for kicks and grins, the friend who obviously was never going to cough up 800K was hauled into court once a year just for giggles and to make sure the hospital had taken everything and that he still had nothing. This ended only when the statute of limitations was up.
So is there a law in NJ that you can only pay payments for 6 months?

Hospitals will take anything as long as you aren’t dodging them.

I’ve been paying Cedars Sinai in LA $25 a month since 2015, 92 months interest free is the setup. I could have paid my measly out of pocket for my surgery in cash but why not pay with no interest.
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Old 10-29-2019, 02:48 PM
 
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People on the right reaaaally loves the Insurance companies and Pharma companies...

Better to be screwed by companies then pay taxes...ehh
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Old 10-29-2019, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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It's not a deflection. Canada has a multi-tier health care system just like the US, but Canada "claims" to have public health care. In the tiny print, they note that some things aren't covered (mental health care, medical devices, dental, vision, etc.), waitlists are long to see specialists, some provinces don't provide prescription coverage, etc. That must all be paid for out of Canadians' pockets or via earning/buying private health insurance. It's no wonder why 2/3 of Canadians have private health insurance. Canada's public health care is bare bones coverage with many things excluded.
It is obvious, that you do not comprehend what a two-tier, or multi-tier healthcare system is. No wonder your posts are nonsensical and full of misinformation.

Once again, Canada has a SINGLE PAYER system. Single, not two, not multi.

What it does have is supplemental private insurance to cover dental, vision, and prescriptions.

If it were a true two-tiered system, there would be hospitals etc running parallel services for a fee, or accepting private insurance.

There are not as that goes against the Canada Health Act which I posted earlier, but you chose to ignore...or maybe you just couldn't understand it.

Plus the coverage is NOT bare bones. It covers everything medically necessary. Everything. It's also the doctors that decided what is medically needed, not the government.
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Old 10-29-2019, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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People on the right reaaaally loves the Insurance companies and Pharma companies...

Better to be screwed by companies then pay taxes...ehh
I love my health insurance, have never felt screwed by them. Everything was excellent when I had my emergency appendectomy....a nurse made a house call post-op. Lol think the government could/would do that?

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It is obvious, that you do not comprehend what a two-tier, or multi-tier healthcare system is. No wonder your posts are nonsensical and full of misinformation.

Once again, Canada has a SINGLE PAYER system. Single, not two, not multi.

What it does have is supplemental private insurance to cover dental, vision, and prescriptions.

If it were a true two-tiered system, there would be hospitals etc running parallel services for a fee, or accepting private insurance.

There are not as that goes against the Canada Health Act which I posted earlier, but you chose to ignore...or maybe you just couldn't understand it.

Plus the coverage is NOT bare bones. It covers everything medically necessary. Everything. It's also the doctors that decided what is medically needed, not the government.
We don't care about your UHC...how many times do I have to say this? This thread isn't about Canada.

I don't think any American is packing their bags and headed up north because of your explanations of mediocre health care at best.
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