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Old 10-28-2019, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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There is no polling or other evidence that that is happening and even if it were, the House must do its Constitutional duties regardless of the consequences. No president should be allowed to just walk away untarnished for bribery and extortion of foreign governments for his personal political benefit. We have to nip this here or Trimp's abuse of power will become standard practice in future adminstrations and our democracy will be at risk. You can't see this with your bias, I know, but history will judge Pelosi and the Democrats for whether they stood for the nation or not.
I'm curious where the proof of the above is--bribery and extortion of foreign governments? Wasn't the phone call transcript by the President released to the public.

It all sounds very hear-say, very much concocted, as of right now.

Just because the Democrats really want something to be true, doesn't make it true.
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Old 10-28-2019, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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I will be SHOCKED if they vote on Articles of Impeachment because that would actually kick of an actual investigation in the Senate where both side can do discovery and subpoena. It isn't going to happen. The Democrats are just going to TALK about an Impeachment the entire campaign.
You're only reinforcing my claim that you're in denial.

The Trump fans here have been telling us for 2 or 3 years that Trump would never be impeached. They were certain of it. Now that the wheels have begun rolling on an impeachment process, they're in denial that it's happening at all.
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Old 10-28-2019, 03:11 PM
 
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Sadly it is great news.

What a waste of time, money and insult to all the voters who voted for Trump!

Democrats will divide the country each day, more by pulling the crap they are keeping themselves busy with.

In the beginning I started to doubt if there was anything going on, but each time the proof showed the Democrats were on the short end and the lies and deceive has become so insanely ridiculous that it is almost time to Baker act all of them.
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Old 10-28-2019, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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You're only reinforcing my claim that you're in denial.

The Trump fans here have been telling us for 2 or 3 years that Trump would never be impeached. They were certain of it. Now that the wheels have begun rolling on an impeachment process, they're in denial that it's happening at all.


I'm not in denial. The Democrats are banking the low information types (you) will accept this as a "vote for Impeachment Articles" which will kick off the investigation. IT IS NOT. So, this is meaningless. If the Democrats actually had anything they would have VOTED FOR THE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT ALREADY.

Keep dreaming. Hillary LOST, get over it, and Trump will be reelected.
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Old 10-28-2019, 03:19 PM
 
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False. A majority of Americans support the inquiry. They don't want the Ukraine situation to be swept under the rug; in fact, they want the opposite.

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...chment-inquiry
No, no they don't.

If a majority of Americans have no understanding of what is a very obscure charge, and would rather watch football or whatever light entertainment they fancy. You are believing completely made-up polls. Read wikileaks and discover how they rig these things by simply changing the sample when hey don't get the result that they want. If you can't be bothered to be that well-informed, probably because you are busy with football, or other light entertainment, then look no further than the last election. Or do you still believe that Hillary has a 99% chance of being president?

Trump has a 100% chance of being the sitting president when he accepts the party's nomination, and, if he runs against Warren, which is very likely, a 75% chance of being re-elected. As your party wastes is time on this nonsense yet again, the Republicans are building a war-chest, and a massive ground game in 13 battlegrounds states.

A further, unrelated note: if this is indeed the year that you have a brokered convention because your candidates are crap, a very real possibility due to primary reform in your party, please recognize it as a sign that god hates you.
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Old 10-28-2019, 03:22 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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This floor vote means two things:

1) Pelosi and Schiff have the evidence to prove that Trump committed an impeachable offense, and
2) Pelosi's got the votes in the House to impeach
Will "We the people" be allowed to learn who voted FOR impeachment and who voted AGAINST, in this supposed "vote" on Thursday?

Or is it just another hot-air parade where the Dems bluster and screech while concealing from the voters what they are actually doing?

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Old 10-28-2019, 03:22 PM
 
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Good to see they finally caved and are going to try and st least do this the right way. Get them all on the record so they can't walk it back and perhaps make this a fair process
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Old 10-28-2019, 03:25 PM
 
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Kupperman’s lawsuit may also have forced the Democrats’ hand here. The last thing Pelosi wants is an adverse ruling regarding Trump’s ability to raise executive privilege as a barrier to testimony. Having a vote on a formal impeachment inquiry further bolsters the House’s argument that such a privilege can not be used in these circumstances.
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Old 10-28-2019, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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I'm not in denial. The Democrats are banking the low information types (you) will accept this as a "vote for Impeachment Articles" which will kick off the investigation. IT IS NOT. So, this is meaningless. If the Democrats actually had anything they would have VOTED FOR THE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT ALREADY....
LOL, yes you're clearly in denial. I just pointed out that the House cannot vote for articles of impeachment until they've decided what to charge him with, which is what they're doing now. So, in your desperate attempt to convince yourself that nothing is really going on, you try to claim that the House hasn't yet done something that they can't yet do anyway. It's like accusing somebody of not officially having taken a shower when they haven't even taken their clothes off yet. Hey Einstein, you need to take your clothes off before you can take a shower. Right now the House committees are in the process of turning the shower on and haven't taken their clothes off, but because you don't want them to take a shower you're accusing them of not having taken one yet. Even though they haven't even taken their clothes off yet.
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Old 10-28-2019, 03:26 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Good to see they finally caved and are going to try and st least do this the right way. Get them all on the record so they can't walk it back and perhaps make this a fair process

They need to put it to a vote, nut up or shut up.
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