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Old 11-13-2019, 12:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
This testimony testimony is so funny. It is clear as broad daylight that both Kent and Taylor are Democrat operatives.

Non-partisan my ass. LOL.
They seem to come across as policy wonks to me. They have plenty of opportunity to offer anti-Trump sound bites but aren't taking the bait.

 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:14 PM
 
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Sign behind Nunes and Jordon
“if we don’t impeach him, Trump will be re-elected”
- Al Green
It's OVER. Another BIG NOTHING Burger!

Trump 2020!
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:16 PM
 
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Republicans shouting a lot and all over the place.

Trump withheld security aid authorized by Congress to force the Ukrainian President into smearing a political opponent by publicly announcing an investigation.

Republicans claim it was no big deal as others ultimately prevented this from happening.

Seems weak somehow.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:17 PM
 
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Trump froze the aid. HE did; no one else. Just because you don't like the facts doesn't make them fake. Another fact; Ukrainians died because they did not have access to the money to buy the weapons that would help them fight the Russian bullies next door. And that was because of, guess who? Trump. Because Congress already approved the aid package and once again, Trump went over their heads and did what he wanted for his own personal gain. Truth.
Yes, Trump froze aid to the Ukraine. That's a fact. The mentally superior can clearly see no one denied or is debating that. I'd like the verifiable evidence of your claims that these Ukrainian soldiers died as a direct result of a lack of access to weapons due to Trump. According to CNN, the U.S. released 200 million in defensive aid to the Ukraine in 2018.

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In a move likely to irk Moscow, the Pentagon has released $200 million in security assistance to Ukraine just days after the Russian Ministry of Defense said it was ready to work with the US Department of Defense on a range of security issues following a meeting between President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin and amid concerns the US President had not been tough enough with his Russian counterpart at their meeting in Helsinki, Finland.

US releases $200 million in defensive aid to Ukraine as Moscow seeks better ties
So you're claiming the Ukraine essentially ran out of defensive weapons and 200 million in aid to fight Russian forces in a years time and they died in the line of fire due to having zero weapons? Okay.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:17 PM
 
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The Dem's should have let this go and had a fair election in 2020 to rid themselves (in their mind) of Trump. They could not do that because they have a clown car full of idiots and NONE could beat Trump! So they must try and impeach! Watch what happens when America hears all the LIES and fabrications and hearsay.... Trump will be your Prez 4 more years!

Ya'll Democrats really messed up BIG TIME.
(On bolded) Except my fear is they won’t hear it — not the truth anyway.. Most Americans don’t have time to follow this hearing live and their media will,spin it to just show the Dem side. Only FOX will show the other side and they are already preaching to the choir.....there’s just so much more liberal trump hating media out there.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:18 PM
 
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I don't know what worse: This farce of a impeachment hearing or Hillary saying that many are pressuring her to run for Prez. The only thing I can think of is the most bottom of the barrel, lowlife desperate Democrats are begging her to run!
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:18 PM
 
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Good one Ratcliffe!!!
“Where is the impeachable offense??!!”
“If they impeach Trump, they have to call Ukrainian President a liar”
(He went on multiple interviews and media saying no pressure, no corruption, no quid pro quo...)

Spinning, spinning time is all what this live hearing will end up doing.


Both parties(Republicans and Democrats) with the mainstream media that supports them are going to be on a spinning spree to the best of the ability to favor their argument. They will also use it as a leverage to try to get people who remain in the middle and think objectively to get confused as to what side to believe in or get behind to support or be against impeaching Trump.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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Even on Fox News they are saying the testimony is very damaging to Trump.
Trump tried to extort Ukraine on the phone call.
Ukraine knew the aid was cut off.
The whole thing was set up in advance by Trump's personal lawyer, Giuliani.


Guilty as charged your honor. Impeach.
They did? Who's they? I've had Fox news on and don't remember hearing them say that.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:21 PM
 
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Kent just claimed Dimitri Alperovic is Russian. That's not true. Alperovic is Ukrainian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitri_Alperovitch

He's born in Russia = Russian.
 
Old 11-13-2019, 12:23 PM
 
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Yes, Trump froze aid to the Ukraine. That's a fact. The mentally superior can clearly see no one denied or is debating that. I'd like the verifiable evidence of your claims that these Ukrainian soldiers died as a direct result of a lack of access to weapons due to Trump. According to CNN, the U.S. released 200 million in defensive aid to the Ukraine in 2018.



So you're claiming the Ukraine essentially ran out of defensive weapons and 200 million in aid to fight Russian forces in a years time and they died in the line of fire due to having zero weapons? Okay.
Exactly, they can’t back up this crazy claim.
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