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They think that if they repeat their conspiracy theories enough that they can make them come true.
Trump can get behind the wheel of a car, and these people will convince themselves that he wnats to run people over. Their problem is they only ever assume the very worst intensions by Trump.
The entire first three years of his presidency illustrates this. e endured that ignorant Trump-Russian collusion investigatin, for no other reason than the same exact people had convinced themselves that Trump commited treason by colluding with Russians. This latest Uraine conspiracy nonsense is just the new, new insanity from these people.
I posted that Aug 5th link from the Washington Post, whwich informed us that Trump was withholding funds from a great many foreign countries and institutions as a partof a review. It was not just being withheld from Uraine. But even that information gets ignored, or distored to fit their tightly clenched narrative.
There is already a process in place to certify the release of foreign aid, why is he intervening in Ukraine and not informing the primary players. If you listened to the hearings there is a certification that is done within the pentagon for military aid, this was completed back in the spring for Ukraine.
What other countries was Trump withholding aid, did Mulvaney issue the orders and inform the appropriate offices.
Release of funds on September 11th is not "early" as the OP tried to say. So don't go trying to spin for him/her some more. Can we stick the original LIE here?
The funds were released before Sept 30, you can opine that your opinion is that it's "not early" enough all you like, but it's an irrelevant distinction.
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The funds were ready for release in the June/July timeframe. They were appropriated, they were marked for certain procurements, they were THERE. Congress appropriated them as is their duty. Funds should be released when they are available. So people, including the private companies that are fulfilling the orders, don't have to spend extra money or go into administrative heroics to get the promised goods and services delivered to comply with Security Assistance.
The president delayed releasing the funds, it's not illegal for a president to do so.
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And why were these funds delayed? Not for any U.S. benefit. It was for benefit of ONE MAN.
There was an across the board review going on. Just like with assumptions being made about Trump-Russia collusion, it's nothing but biased, politically motivated conjecture on your part.
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No one is saying impeachment is because federal workers or private companies were inconvenienced because they only had a couple of weeks to do the procurements. Come on, you aren't that silly are you? Or are you trying another false equivalency shift here.
I have to ask, since there are so many accusations against Trump being floated around. Even you are putting thoughts into Trumps head and making assumptions about his motivations, and then pushing to impeach him for those assumptions
If that’s what you’re talking about you have nothing. Aid is slowed or withheld all the time for various reasons.
Absolutely no impeachable offense. That will not play out in your favor.
They think that if they repeat their conspiracy theories enough that they can make them come true.
Trump can get behind the wheel of a car, and these people will convince themselves that he wnats to run people over. Their problem is they only ever assume the very worst intensions by Trump.
The entire first three years of his presidency illustrates this. e endured that ignorant Trump-Russian collusion investigatin, for no other reason than the same exact people had convinced themselves that Trump commited treason by colluding with Russians. This latest Uraine conspiracy nonsense is just the new, new insanity from these people.
I posted that Aug 5th link from the Washington Post, whwich informed us that Trump was withholding funds from a great many foreign countries and institutions as a partof a review. It was not just being withheld from Uraine. But even that information gets ignored, or distored to fit their tightly clenched narrative.
We even heard during the testimony that delaying of aid was perfectly legal:
Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, one of the key witnesses against Mr. Trump, stunned lawmakers when he revealed that the National Security Council had ruled Mr. Trump’s hold legal.
“There was opinion rendered that it was legal to put the hold,” he said.
“It was, excuse me?” blurted out Rep. Mike Quigley, Illinois Democrat.
“There was an opinion, legal opinion, rendered that the hold was legal,” Col. Vindman repeated.
Mr. Quigley pressed him further: “On the purely legal point of view?”
My post was in regard to the fact Ukraine in 2016 aided and collided with the DNC to help Hillary Clinton get elected. This is verifiable collusion as opposed to what the democrats went after Trump for.
In regard to your post, you will never prove bribery because you have to have a victim and you don’t.
Giuliani worked for Trump and went after the 2016 corruption that we know occurred. It will all come out in the Senate although I’m not convinced the house will vote to impeach.
If that’s what you’re talking about you have nothing. Aid is slowed or withheld all the time for various reasons.
Absolutely no impeachable offense. That will not play out in your favor.
How does this sound?
Using the powers of the office of President of the United States, Donald Trump, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in disregard of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has repeatedly engaged in conduct violating the constitutional rights of citizens, impairing the due and proper administration of justice and the conduct of lawful inquiries, or contravening the laws governing agencies of the executive branch and the purposes of these agencies.
My post was in regard to the fact Ukraine in 2016 aided and collided with the DNC to help Hillary Clinton get elected. This is verifiable collusion as opposed to what the democrats went after Trump for.
In regard to your post, you will never prove bribery because you have to have a victim and you don’t.
Giuliani worked for Trump and went after the 2016 corruption that we know occurred. It will all come out in the Senate although I’m not convinced the house will vote to impeach.
How does this sound?
Donald Trump, using the powers of his high office, engaged personally and through his close subordinates and agents, in a course of conduct or plan designed to delay, impede, and obstruct the investigation of such illegal activity; to cover up, conceal and protect those responsible; and to conceal the existence and scope of other unlawful covert activities.
Donald Trump, using the powers of his high office, engaged personally and through his close subordinates and agents, in a course of conduct or plan designed to delay, impede, and obstruct the investigation of such illegal activity; to cover up, conceal and protect those responsible; and to conceal the existence and scope of other unlawful covert activities.
That exact thing is hurled at every president we have ever had, by their most vocal opponents. You hate Trump and assume the very worst about him, it's nothing new, we just went thru the Trump-Russia collusion where you made the same exact claims
That exact thing is hurled at every president we have ever had, by their most vocal opponents. You hate Trump and assume the very worst about him, it's nothing new, we just went thru the Trump-Russia collusion where you made the same exact claims
Articles of impeachment are not "hurled at every president we have ever had" period full stop.
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