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Old 12-07-2019, 04:41 PM
 
Location: SoCal & Mid-TN
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There is a large spectrum of policial belief - from the extreme right to the extreme left. Most people fall somewhere close to the center. But nowdays everyone is lumped in togeter. All leftists are Antifa members, and all right wingers are KKK members. This is disingenuous and needs to stop. No wonder no one can have a discussion. I rarely repont to any posts that starts out "why do all leftists????" because I know without even looking that it's going to be something some extremists has done and that the poster is lumping them together with moderates life myself. I'm sure people on the right feel the same way.

So, you have to type a few more word - but be clear.

Don't say "leftists want communism" - say "some extreme leftists want communism". Be precise and accurate. Isn't that what you are all saying the media should be? But the thread titles here are wose than anythign the MSM could get away with. Take your own advice.
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Old 12-07-2019, 05:00 PM
 
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Like what you said, many but not all SJWs tend to be on the Left though we have plenty of Right-winged snowflakes as well.
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Old 12-07-2019, 05:54 PM
 
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What’s sad is that all American politics are authoritarian right on the scale. But Democrats and Republicans act like they are polar opposites. When in fact they’ve got far more in common than different. Not even Bernie is advocating for the government taking control of the means of production like an actual socialist.
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Old 12-07-2019, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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What’s sad is that all American politics are authoritarian right on the scale. But Democrats and Republicans act like they are polar opposites. When in fact they’ve got far more in common than different. Not even Bernie is advocating for the government taking control of the means of production like an actual socialist.
"authoritarian" is about the mechanism to get something done, not the what you believe in in and of itself. So actually yes, you can be the polar opposite of someone and both be authoritarian.
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Old 12-07-2019, 06:05 PM
 
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"authoritarian" is about the mechanism to get something done, not the what you believe in in and of itself. So actually yes, you can be the polar opposite of someone and both be authoritarian.
Yes, but both Democrats and Republicans are right authoritarian. Democrats just slightly less so.
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Old 12-07-2019, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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There is a large spectrum of policial belief - from the extreme right to the extreme left. Most people fall somewhere close to the center. But nowdays everyone is lumped in togeter. All leftists are Antifa members, and all right wingers are KKK members. This is disingenuous and needs to stop. No wonder no one can have a discussion. I rarely repont to any posts that starts out "why do all leftists????" because I know without even looking that it's going to be something some extremists has done and that the poster is lumping them together with moderates life myself. I'm sure people on the right feel the same way.

So, you have to type a few more word - but be clear.

Don't say "leftists want communism" - say "some extreme leftists want communism". Be precise and accurate. Isn't that what you are all saying the media should be? But the thread titles here are wose than anythign the MSM could get away with. Take your own advice.
But the MSM is full of references to “extreme right-wingers”. Nary a ref to “extreme left-wingers”, ever.

Howcum?
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Old 12-07-2019, 06:08 PM
 
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But the MSM is full of references to “extreme right-wingers”. Nary a ref to “extreme left-wingers”, ever.

Howcum?
There’s not much further right to go... There really isn’t any substantial extreme left presence in the US.
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020
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Old 12-07-2019, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Don't say "leftists want communism" - say "some extreme leftists want communism". Be precise and accurate. Isn't that what you are all saying the media should be? But the thread titles here are wose than anythign the MSM could get away with. Take your own advice.
what it is more like is the difference between john and jane doe leftist/rightist and POLITICIAN leftist/rightists

leftists politicians want communism would be quite accurate......leftist mom and pop American are more centrists than far leftists like the politicians
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Old 12-07-2019, 06:14 PM
 
Location: SoCal & Mid-TN
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But the MSM is full of references to “extreme right-wingers”. Nary a ref to “extreme left-wingers”, ever.

Howcum?
The difference is that they use the term "extreme right/left" no just righ/left - which is my point.
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Old 12-07-2019, 06:17 PM
 
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what it is more like is the difference between john and jane doe leftist/rightist and POLITICIAN leftist/rightists

leftists politicians want communism would be quite accurate......leftist mom and pop American are more centrists than far leftists like the politicians
Which leaves us moderates out in the cold. Truly, I am so disgusted with the partisianism that spends more time calling each other names like kids on a playground than actually dealing with issues that might impact my life, that I've just pretty much dropped out of all but local/state polictics on issues that really do affect me.
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