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Old 02-02-2020, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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That 'take your flags with you' comment was in response to some Brexiters trying to get the EU flag banned in the UK (despite the fact that the EU flag is also the flag of the Council of Europe - which the UK will remain a member of). Some Brexiters tried and failed to burn EU flags in Parliament Square, which is hardly in good spirits is it?

In fact, when we left the EU, several leaders stated that they will never forget the contribution and sacrifices the UK made for peace in Europe.

Ireland will pay back the £3.25 billion plus interest by March 2021. The current leaders of Ireland have nothing to do with being accomodating to Hitler.

I thought the Brexiters, now that they "won", want the country to come together and reconcile? Surely antagonising our closest trading partner is not the way to go about that? A US trade deal (17% of trade), will never replace the trade we did with the EU (49% of our trade).
The point being that there is something not quite right about a citizenry that was so cozy with Hitler, is there??.....
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Old 02-02-2020, 08:28 PM
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Location: Surrey/London
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The point being that there is something not quite right about a citizenry that was so cozy with Hitler, is there??.....

No, but that has nothing to do with Ireland in the present day, or the EU. It is irrelevant to the discussion.
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Old 02-02-2020, 08:38 PM
 
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No, but that has nothing to do with Ireland in the present day, or the EU. It is irrelevant to the discussion.
Really?? Neat trick!!!
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Old 02-02-2020, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Canada can’t cut a deal with the UK that on par with their NAFTA trade deal. If they did that, they’d render NAFTA to be a joke as far as it’s exclusiveness to NAFTA member nations.
Canada has a free trade agreement (CETA) with the EU and I believe that agreement still includes the U.K. until the end of this year. If Brexit had happened last March, U.K.’s original plan had been to strike a temporary bilateral agreement with Canada modeled on CETA. Obviously, CETA reflects the trade goals of the EU as a whole rather than specifically the U.K. but the temporary agreement would have given the U.K. some breathing room (status quo) until a more suitable permanent bilateral agreement with Canada could be reached.

Now, I think Canada is just content to wait until the U.K. knows what it wants. Last year Canadian civil servants really scrambled to put together a draft agreement for the end of March with little help from their British counterparts, which was the cause of some frustration. CETA is about 500 pages long. Then Theresa May pulled the rug on them by announcing that the U.K. wouldn’t be imposing tariffs on imports from any country. So all that effort was a waste of time.
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Old 02-02-2020, 10:14 PM
 
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Says the dude who used to live in Detroit.
When was that?

And why is my residency relevant in a thread about Brexit? Even if I lived in Detroit right now today, what makes that germane to the topic at hand?
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Let's see....

You've made a 1/2 dozen very very long posts since this. None BTW which actually address the OP. So what is it to you?
It’s nothing to me...that’s what. Just like it’s nothing to you.
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Canada has a free trade agreement (CETA) with the EU and I believe that agreement still includes the U.K. until the end of this year. If Brexit had happened last March, U.K.’s original plan had been to strike a temporary bilateral agreement with Canada modeled on CETA. Obviously, CETA reflects the trade goals of the EU as a whole rather than specifically the U.K. but the temporary agreement would have given the U.K. some breathing room (status quo) until a more suitable permanent bilateral agreement with Canada could be reached.

Now, I think Canada is just content to wait until the U.K. knows what it wants. Last year Canadian civil servants really scrambled to put together a draft agreement for the end of March with little help from their British counterparts, which was the cause of some frustration. CETA is about 500 pages long. Then Theresa May pulled the rug on them by announcing that the U.K. wouldn’t be imposing tariffs on imports from any country. So all that effort was a waste of time.
Very interesting.
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Old 02-03-2020, 06:52 AM
 
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Apart from the crash of the GBP, the £130 billion hit to the UK economy, the fact that the UK has spent more on Brexit since 2016 than the total of 47 years of EU contributions, the slowing of GDP growth by 3% (with a further forecast of 2-8% depending on the leave scenario), the decrease in foreign investment into the UK by 92% between 2016 and 2019.

That has all happened. We won't see the full effects until 1st January 2021.

You aren't even British, so that must be why you just gloat and say "I won, get over it". People will suffer economically from Brexit.
Not only has foreign investment decreased dramatically, significant funds have moved out of the UK. Reuters reported on the outflow of capital in property investment funds as of last fall.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN1WG3Q1

When Nigel Farage was asked about a substantial amount his hedge fund transferred out of the UK, he said that it was in response to requests from clients.

I suspect it will take a number of years to see the full impact of Brexit. But the decrease in investment funds is not good news.

When this topic of economic impact of Brexit was discussed on an earlier Brexit thread, the response was that Brits were a tough bunch who have made it through tough times.

I don't doubt this a bit.
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Old 02-03-2020, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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Not only has foreign investment decreased dramatically, significant funds have moved out of the UK. Reuters reported on the outflow of capital in property investment funds as of last fall.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN1WG3Q1

When Nigel Farage was asked about a substantial amount his hedge fund transferred out of the UK, he said that it was in response to requests from clients.

I suspect it will take a number of years to see the full impact of Brexit. But the decrease in investment funds is not good news.

When this topic of economic impact of Brexit was discussed on an earlier Brexit thread, the response was that Brits were a tough bunch who have made it through tough times.

I don't doubt this a bit.
And this is from the far-left Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-term-problems

Britain has done WORSE since joining Europe than it did prior.
And Europe is sucking bogwater, with or without Britain.
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Old 02-03-2020, 09:51 AM
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And this is from the far-left Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-term-problems

Britain has done WORSE since joining Europe than it did prior.
And Europe is sucking bogwater, with or without Britain.
You do realise that Brexit isn't a left/right issue? 'Far left' also support Brexit as the neoliberal EU makes their socialist dreams illegal.

When the UK joined in 1973, it had the worst economy in Europe. The mass growth in the 50/60s was due to the rebuilding from the war, and the end of rationing.
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Old 02-03-2020, 10:34 AM
 
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You do realise that Brexit isn't a left/right issue? 'Far left' also support Brexit as the neoliberal EU makes their socialist dreams illegal.

When the UK joined in 1973, it had the worst economy in Europe. The mass growth in the 50/60s was due to the rebuilding from the war, and the end of rationing.
Well, the urban socialists of the UK certainly hated Brexit, to a man and woman.
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Old 02-03-2020, 10:39 AM
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Well, the urban socialists of the UK certainly hated Brexit, to a man and woman.

Jeremy Corbyn and most of his 'Momentum' group were pro-Brexit.
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