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I be curious how such legislation it would work in practice, as I know that the 21 drinking age pushed by NHTSA could not be directly imposed on sovereign states as traffic legislation was a state matter under the federalist system. Thus the only way it worked out was threatening to withdraw large amounts of federal highway funds in order to get the states to raise their drinking age. Meaning the state could technically choose not to raise the drinking age but they would lose funding for their highways in which many states could not afford to lose. This shows how states are cash strapped and outside funding dependent on maintaining their road and transportation system.
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Yes, that is the way it works. Try driving through George Wallace's Alabama in the 70's to realize how it works.
At 18 a person can engage in contracts including financial that puts them in debt, and join the military which has life long impact, can vote, yet the gov and supporters have determined they are not responsible enough to determine if they want to smoke are not?
Why make this determination for people, yet ignore all the other life long impacting items? Why are such people allowed to vote yet on the other hand, deemed them too stupid to make decisions about smoking? Why allow them to go into the military, which is a serious commitment you just cannot change your mind about, yet hey, you are too stupid to decide about smoking?
Its all due to SAFETY!!!
Its amazing what the American people are willing to tolerate under the guise of 'protecting health and safety'.
Part of the bill signed yesterday mandated a nationwide 21 year old requirement to buy cigarettes. Only 19 states have found that to be agreeable yet the Federal government is forcing them to comply now with a national standard. A new 12 week paid maternity benefit for federal workers is also now law. How long will it before it is extended to private employers? These are two long desired Democratic goals. The federal mandate on smokes is almost Obama-esque in it's concept and reach. It makes me wonder if Trump, once a New York Democrat, is starting to pivot back to his roots as he approaches a second term. For those of you who have not watched and listened to him over the years, he has a lot of leftist ideas in that old head of his. Maybe we will get a liberal either way in 2020.
Don't give Trump too much credit for this. He's never really been interested in public policy per se, only to the extent that it affects his bottom line and ability to stay out of legal trouble.
I've always believed if a person is old enough to die or be maimed in the service of our country in the military, that person is old enough to partake in adult vices.
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I've always believed if a person is old enough to die or be maimed in the service of our country in the military, that person is old enough to partake in adult vices.
Plenty of beer was supplied to allied forces before D-Day and Beer was not rationed in the UK during WW2 and neither was tobacco/cigarettes or indeed fish and chips.
Anyone old enough and brave enough to fight in a war is old enough to have a beer or a smoke if that's what they want.
Don't give Trump too much credit for this. He's never really been interested in public policy per se, only to the extent that it affects his bottom line and ability to stay out of legal trouble.
Well, the tobacco industry is a LARGE industry, employees alot of people...seems strange Trump would be ok with suddenly cutting off a good percentage of their customers! (the 18-20 age range).
Plenty of beer was supplied to allied forces before D-Day and Beer was not rationed in the UK during WW2 and neither was tobacco/cigarettes or indeed fish and chips.
Anyone old enough and brave enough to fight in a war is old enough to have a beer or a smoke if that's what they want.
Im pretty sure the military forces still carry and sell cigarettes at their stores, 'Commissary' I think they are called?
Trump is not a Republican, or a Democrat, in his ideaology..he's both...with heavy populist leanings. He's picking his battles carefully, and this one isn't one of them, and either was family leave.
He probably had to deal them both away to get military, or wall, $'s, or some other thing he wanted.
If 'Pubs retake the House, he can easily undo these things, and claim they didn't work, or some other excuse.
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