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Old 12-30-2019, 08:34 AM
 
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That’s ridiculous. Not one Jew will make a choice to vote for White Nationalists. You’re , of course in a sneaky way, trying to equate Republicans with white nationalists, and those of us who don’t spend time in your liberal echo chambers, know that that’s a false equation. I’m an Orthodox Jew. I vote red. Never in a million years would I vote for an anti semite. I thank G-d every day for delivering us Trump, who has done more for American and worldwide Jewry than any president ever. Ever! Don’t lecture me that somehow I’m supporting white nationalism. You think I’m stupid? < cue more left wing Jew hatred>
Exactly. You're so right! (Pun intended.) Does that poster realize how OFFENSIVE it is to tell observant Jews that they are voting for White Nationalists when they choose to go with a pro-Jewish president? (Talk about chutzpah....that poster isn't even Jewish.) It's like the Democrats are DEMANDING that we side with the party who openly embraces anti-Semitic Congresspeople in their own ranks and reject the best president the Jews have ever had (in my lifetime, as least).

I drew the parallel in a previous post that saying that Jews who vote Republican are voting for White Nationalism is every bit as sneaky - and mean-spiritied, and arrogant, and self-righteous - as if you or I were to say that Jews who vote Democrat are voting for Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam.

(Also, that poster is accusing Jews who don't vote for the Democrats of dual-loyalty, or worse. One of the oldest anti-Semitic tropes in the book - and, I will point out, it is coming from a liberal.)

 
Old 12-30-2019, 08:36 AM
 
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Yes. Full of propaganda to try and win a tad more of the Jewish vote. Just like the propaganda spread on this forum about how blacks are just FLOCKING to vote for Trump.
Basically Russian disinformation tactics. Take a lie and just keep repeating it. Never do otherwise. Never suggest you might be wrong. Put out all kinds of talking points which confuse.

The problem is....that both black and jewish voting patterns suggest the only people believing that krap are the ones who are spouting it.
 
Old 12-30-2019, 08:36 AM
 
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I dare say you are more exuberant that you can use this incident to forward your personal agenda against blacks and liberals.....than you are upset at what happened to these Jewish people. You probably hope for MORE of these attacks to help further that agenda. You are more concerned about your white-right....than Jewish peoples fate.
OMG. And here above we have a liberal who is so hateful and anti-Semitic that he accuses a Jew (who won't submit to the liberal agenda) of wanting more attacks against Jews - and being happy that Jews were attacked. Can you liberals GET any worse????????
 
Old 12-30-2019, 08:36 AM
 
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Yes. Full of propaganda to try and win a tad more of the Jewish vote. Just like the propaganda spread on this forum about how blacks are just FLOCKING to vote for Trump.
Yep, and at the same time claiming the recent attack on Jews is the fault on the Democrat party solely because the perp is black.
 
Old 12-30-2019, 08:37 AM
 
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I dare say you are more exuberant that you can use this incident to forward your personal agenda against blacks and liberals.....than you are upset at what happened to these Jewish people. You probably hope for MORE of these attacks to help further that agenda. You are more concerned about your white-right....than Jewish peoples fate....and that is clear.
Almost giddy, one might say; judging from the post below. Eager to blame blacks and Democrats per the usual.

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Exactly. And to be more precise, I believe it has been about a dozen attacks BY blacks and AGAINST Jews in the last month or so. And somehow....it's Trump's fault.


Democrats were so afraid of offending the anti-Semites in their base (and there are plenty of them) that they were unwilling to issue a resolution condemning anti-Semitism after one of their own (!!) advanced anti-Semitic tropes.
 
Old 12-30-2019, 08:38 AM
 
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OMG. And here above we have a liberal who is so hateful and anti-Semitic that he accuses a Jew (who won't submit to the liberal agenda) of wanting more attacks against Jews - and being happy that Jews were attacked. Can you liberals GET any worse????????
More fake outrage...lol. Stop it You are not fooling anybody. Your agenda is clear.
 
Old 12-30-2019, 08:38 AM
 
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I would have to know Jews to hate Jews or love them. I don't know any Jews, to be honest. I have met a few, but don't KNOW them or their lives.

What I know is that in this topic the issue of what political side that anti-semitism is coming from is more important than the anti-semitism. That tells me that the real interest is not in Jews, but left vs right.
I think if you knew Jews you would being willing to reject Farrakhan rather than express your admiration for him. Neither would you have the hatred to accuse a Jew of being happy Jews were attacked - and wishing for me. My finding has always been that the most bigoted against a group are those who have little interaction with them.
 
Old 12-30-2019, 08:39 AM
 
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I drew the parallel in a previous post that saying that Jews who vote Republican are voting for White Nationalism is every bit as sneaky - and mean-spiritied, and arrogant, and self-righteous - as if you or I were to say that Jews who vote Democrat are voting for Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam.

(Also, that poster is accusing Jews who don't vote for the Democrats of dual-loyalty, or worse. One of the oldest anti-Semitic tropes in the book - and, I will point out, it is coming from a liberal.)
If Farakan was in the WH and serving as the top advisor who has outlasted every other staff member maybe you'd have a point.

But, since that's not the case, your point is moot. A pebble and a bomb are not the same thing.

As far as "best President", obviously Jews don't feel that way. Neither does a majority of the American public. His rating among historians is dead-last in history.

When such stats exist it is beholden on people like you to step back and think "Is everyone else correct and just maybe...maybe..I am wrong?".

Doubling down is not the Jewish way of thought.
 
Old 12-30-2019, 08:41 AM
 
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I don't buy it. Republicans are rebranding the left as anti-semitic as part of their standard fear-mongering tactics.
The far left has ALWAYS been anti-Semitic, the only change is that our friends on the left, both in the US and the UK have embraced the far left and part of that is embracing antisemitism.

Now there's obviously levels to the antisemitism on the left, not everyone goes full Rashida Tlaib or Ilhan Omar with their antisemitism, but it's always there on some level among our friends who embrace the far left.
 
Old 12-30-2019, 08:41 AM
 
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https://religionnews.com/2017/09/13/...tick-with-him/

It's a little disingenuous to say all liberal Jews are non-religious. Really the only Jewish group that mostly votes Republican are Hasidics, which is sorta ironic considering how much government assistance they use.
So much wrong with your post. I suspect you are also unclear on who/what a Chasidic Jew is. The Chasids are a sub set of Orthodox Jews and many vote on the left to strengthen entitlements, which yes, they frequently take advantage of, due to poverty. The vast majority of American religious Jews are of Litvak heritage (just regular black hat Jews having nothing to do with the Chasidic world), and yes, this group votes maybe 90% red. I’m one of them. And I vote red only because I don’t want Omar/Roger Waters/Jimmy Carter to kill me. The actual politics of the right are highly secondary to me. If the right were the Jew haters, and not the left, I bet I’d suddenly advocate killing unborn babies and would love Venezuela style Socialism and vote left.
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