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Old 01-18-2020, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Let's just call it a draw and say it's "One corrupt useful idiot fingering a corrupt brilliant idiot." Nevertheless, I will vote for Trump in 2020 because when I see the Democratic lineup I say, "What a farce." A clever corrupt leader is better than a dumb honest one any day of the week.
"A clever corrupt leader is better than a dumb honest one any day of the week" that is cringe worthy
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:19 PM
 
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Your perception of a “ shakedown” is based on limited information regarding conversations in the past amongst world leaders.What exactly is the exemplar for such conversations? I have said it over and over again . Conversations between world leaders have never seemed to have 3rd hand “ whistle blowers” go to to their former co-workers, and then head straight to the opposition party. Of course, it could be viewed as a one up situation, but based on the pattern of behavior by Democrats the last 3 years, it is just the latest set up and orchestrated event to satisfy their need to justify the loss of the 2016 election.

Plus, they are on the hook to their MSM water carriers. The Russian Hoax bombed big time, and the viewing public was taken for fools. They need to deliver before November. Those Talking Heads were all wrong, all the time, and it may be contract time.

Favors are not Impeachable offenses no matter how you try and spin it .Obama went around International banking sanctions to give cash to a known supplier of proxy terrorist groups. How’s that for a new normal ?
His accomplice in that matter wants to be POTUS. That’s okay , right? Crickets.

It's very simple:

Shaking down other countries for the benefit of USA is a president's job.
Shaking down other countries for benefit of one person is illegal and impeachable.

That's all there is to it. Obama (and Bush, Clinton, Reagan, etc) did the former. Trump did the later, so he is getting impeached. You on the Right saying, "But Obama did the same thing to benefit the country!!" That's his job.


An anology is this:
If your favorite team's GM traded for a player because he thinks that player can help get more wins. That's his job.
IF that same GM traded for a player because he gets kickback from the player's agent. He violated his job duties.

It's that simple.


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Old 01-18-2020, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Because he can.Just as Hillary and the Dems did what they did. Perhaps you don’t understand how it works.
You will not hear from everybody because it was rushed through. Everyone is aware of that, including the Dems. They weren’t interested in taking the time to go to Court for witnesses to appear. They thought they could just fire off toothless requests , hoping, as is their method, that something will appear out of thin air to make their case.That’s what they attempted with the Russian Hoax.

It didn’t work then, and it isn’t going to work now. YOu hav to come to grips with the fact that every single scheme and attempt by the Dems to remove the POTUS has failed.And despite what the lefty MSM, ex Intelligence shrills and talking heads say, nothing he has done meets the qualifications for Impeachment.

You just can’t expect a flimsy , weak foundation for Impeachment to be built up to a strong undeniable fortress without there being a little more meat on the bone. It isn’t that complicated. Disagreements regarding policy , methods, execution and strategy just isn’t enough. Opinions make good and exciting TV theatre , but in the end , are just shallow.
Trump has blocked witnesses from testifying and blocked the release of documentation, not the case in the Clinton impeachment. He also hasn’t been deposed. The DOD and state department employees testified in spite of Trump, nothing to compare with this level of obstruction.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:52 PM
 
Location: FL
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It's very simple:

Shaking down other countries for the benefit of USA is a president's job.
Shaking down other countries for benefit of one person is illegal and impeachable.

That's all there is to it. Obama (and Bush, Clinton, Reagan, etc) did the former. Trump did the later, so he is getting impeached. You on the Right saying, "But Obama did the same thing to benefit the country!!" That's his job.


An anology is this:
If your favorite team's GM traded for a player because he thinks that player can help get more wins. That's his job.
IF that same GM traded for a player because he gets kickback from the player's agent. He violated his job duties.

It's that simple.


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Well said.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:54 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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I reckon the stable genius who thinks windmill causes cancer is indeed very clever within the Republican ranks.

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In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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The only reason Giuliani and others were in Ukraine is because f*****g journalists in this country are not the slightest bit interested in the crimes of Biden and all other leftists.

That's quite a statement you're making, that all leftists are criminals. You'd have to produce quite a lot of documentation to back up that charge. Don't be surprised if no one believes anything else that you claim.
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:35 PM
 
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Avenatti 2.0
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Boston
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That's quite a statement you're making, that all leftists are criminals. You'd have to produce quite a lot of documentation to back up that charge. Don't be surprised if no one believes anything else that you claim.
then just do it with allegations and speculation, you know, like the Democrats do.
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Old 01-18-2020, 04:27 PM
 
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Republicans can’t win unless they CHEAT.
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Old 01-18-2020, 06:56 PM
 
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Every star struck fan who snags a picture with Elton John or Jennifer Lopez, does that mean the fan "knows" Jennifer? This intimates that the fan knows Jennifer, talks on the phone, goes to dinner. That would be knowing her well.

I think Parnas takes a lot of photos with important people. He might think Trump is king of the deal makers and takes pictures whenever Trump is around. Just because he takes pictures with Trump, does not mean he knows him, it means he takes pictures of him. This dude has way too many pictures. He is either setting Trump up or in on this with the Dem's. So if you see pictures of Parnas and Trump is in the picture, then this sets up Parnas as he must be telling the truth. So people will believe anything coming out of his mouth.

Show me some texts, phone calls and emails that they personally contacted one another and I will tell you they knew each other. Then the second half is what is coming out of Parnas's mouth. Is it true? He will need to proove that to me too.
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