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Old 01-19-2020, 12:52 PM
 
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It's kind of a 'meh' holiday to me. Did he do good things for his people? Sure. For the country as a whole? Maybe. Was it worth a federal holiday? Not in my opinion. But then California has a Cesar Chavez holiday, so whatever.

I always worked both holidays with my crews...if they wanted to take the day off, fine with me, but everyone always showed up. Musta been a bunch of rednecks or somethin'......

 
Old 01-19-2020, 12:53 PM
 
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In honor of the national holiday celebrating the life of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King,Jr. let us now praise all conservative activists who supported Dr. King when he was alive. Also let us praise all the Republican politicians who were previously civil rights activists (like John Lewis) and who went on to become political figures.

I think I can come up with Ed Koch and Charlton Heston, both of whom are a reach since Koch and Heston were both Democrats at the time and Koch's conservativism is debatable.

Anyone else?
I would like to see how many liberals today are supportive of judging people by the content of their character rather than their color....I think it's a miniscule number.

I supported what MLK was doing even though I was very young and continued to support treating people based on their actions rather than their color.
 
Old 01-19-2020, 12:53 PM
 
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Nope. Not the case.


Good points.

King was a MAJOR rabble rouser, and as much as I hate to say it, Conservatives don’t believe in the right to protest. They believe in the right in an abstract fashion, but not in practice. Protesting is anti establishment, and conservatism is all about established power. They know this is a fact.

So King wouldn’t be popular at all with today’s conservatives.
Huh? Aren't pro-life demonstrations alone an example of conservative protest? Or recent free-speech rallies?
 
Old 01-19-2020, 12:55 PM
 
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I would like to see how many liberals today are supportive of judging people by the content of their character rather than their color....I think it's a miniscule number.

I supported what MLK was doing even though I was very young and continued to support treating people based on their actions rather than their color.
Exactly. In our current era, it's so disingenuous for some to tout King while openly embracing extreme identity politics.
 
Old 01-19-2020, 02:50 PM
 
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It's kind of a 'meh' holiday to me. Did he do good things for his people? Sure. For the country as a whole? Maybe. Was it worth a federal holiday? Not in my opinion. But then California has a Cesar Chavez holiday, so whatever.

I always worked both holidays with my crews...if they wanted to take the day off, fine with me, but everyone always showed up. Musta been a bunch of rednecks or somethin'......
That man did wonders for this country. If it wasn’t for him, you folks would’ve had to kill damn near all of us to stop the terror that we would’ve wrought on the country. Our hand would’ve been forced to force your hand, and the streets would’ve had rivers of blood running down them. Most black folks didn’t believe that whites respected non violence (I still question that myself), but King persuaded African Americans to give white Americans that benefit of the doubt.

In doing that, that man showed more courage than pretty much every American who ever came before him. I don’t have the guts to be humiliated and respond non violently, and at some point in our history without Dr. King, most other African Americans wouldn’t have had that courage either. Me and my ilk believe in busting your damn head open, but that’s not conducive to living in a civilized society and moving the nation forward.

Thank goodness for Dr King. This country can never pay the debt to him for which he’s owed. Better recognize.
 
Old 01-19-2020, 02:54 PM
 
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Huh? Aren't pro-life demonstrations alone an example of conservative protest? Or recent free-speech rallies?
Those are not anti establishment gatherings. Those are bytchfests.

When I see conservatives protest wars, environmental issues, police brutality, or something like that, then I might change my mind.

Y’all sat there and watched Philando Castile get murdered and couldn’t WAIT to see the cop walk free.
 
Old 01-19-2020, 03:15 PM
 
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Those are not anti establishment gatherings. Those are bytchfests.

When I see conservatives protest wars, environmental issues, police brutality, or something like that, then I might change my mind.

Okay, so you don't agree with them so therefore those don't count.

Gotcha.

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Y’all sat there and watched Philando Castile get murdered and couldn’t WAIT to see the cop walk free.
Who the eff is "yall?" I know what I thought about it. I could easily point out that "yall" saw Michael Brown assault a man half his size and still burned a town down. See how that works?
 
Old 01-19-2020, 06:07 PM
 
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Okay, so you don't agree with them so therefore those don't count.

Gotcha.



Who the eff is "yall?" I know what I thought about it. I could easily point out that "yall" saw Michael Brown assault a man half his size and still burned a town down. See how that works?
No I don’t.

Again, you and your ilk have never seen a police shooting that you didn’t like.

Like I said earlier, conservatives don’t believe in the right to protest because you guys love the status quo. That’s conservatism in a nutshell. Pro established power should never be questioned. Questioning power is anarchical to Conservatives. You’re supposed to enjoy getting screwed, and work towards the day when YOU can do the screwing.
 
Old 01-20-2020, 10:55 AM
 
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The point is that conservatives did not support Dr. King when he was alive -- Civil rights activism was a liberal and progressive joint.

After his death, conservatives limn a sanitized version of Dr. King and avoid his support for affirmative action, his work against economic injustice and his anti-war stance.
 
Old 01-20-2020, 11:19 AM
 
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That man did wonders for this country. If it wasn’t for him, you folks would’ve had to kill damn near all of us to stop the terror that we would’ve wrought on the country. Our hand would’ve been forced to force your hand, and the streets would’ve had rivers of blood running down them. Most black folks didn’t believe that whites respected non violence (I still question that myself), but King persuaded African Americans to give white Americans that benefit of the doubt.

In doing that, that man showed more courage than pretty much every American who ever came before him. I don’t have the guts to be humiliated and respond non violently, and at some point in our history without Dr. King, most other African Americans wouldn’t have had that courage either. Me and my ilk believe in busting your damn head open, but that’s not conducive to living in a civilized society and moving the nation forward.

Thank goodness for Dr King. This country can never pay the debt to him for which he’s owed. Better recognize.
I can see your perspective and I respect it.......I don't share all of your views, but will give you that he was an honorable man who did what he thought was best. He certainly was fearless and I respect that. Don't take my post as an insult to you, that was not intended. Enjoy the holiday!
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