Coronavirus Update (Kennedy, Miami, elect, San Francisco)

[gwynedd1]

Originally Posted by rjshae

Meanwhile, an estimated 8,200-20,000 people have died of the flu in the 2019-2020 U.S. season.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm

Meanwhile, 300+ million Americans have actually been exposed to the flu.

[newtovenice]

Originally Posted by Mikala43

WHO has issued Home care for Patients with Suspected 2019-nCoV blah, blah for the presenting with mild symptoms.

I haven't read the whole thing. But the first page addresses protocol for coordinating with health care workers..... and keeping them up to date on the patient status.

This would be part of the protocol to declare a patient "Recovered" and to help calculate the numbers to include those who have milder symptoms. It's not perfect, at home you cannot tell if you have influenza or the corona virus, so reporting would not be 100% accurate.

A communication link with a health care provider should be
established for the full duration of the home care period until
the patient fully recovers. Health care personnel should be
involved in reviewing the current health status for the
progression of symptoms3of contacts by phone and, ideally
and if feasible, by face-to-face visits on a regular (e.g. daily)
basis, performing specific diagnostic tests as necessary.


These protocols are modified from the MERs protocols. But, the protocols ARE out there, if you care to go looking.

Edit: oops, forgot the link.

https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefwe...d-patients.pdf

This appears to be voluntary.

There is nothing in what you have posted that states that medical personnel MUST followup with patients who WERE DIAGNOSED and then sent home. And then send the follow-up data to a central location for capture.

Or did I miss it?

[Mikala43]

I know someone commented on the Russia/China border before....

They are still claiming no infections but they are closing the 2600 mile border to China.

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuha...pidemic-2020-1

[lchoro]

Generally, cold and flu become life-threatening when they develop pneumonia or bronchitis. All the early cases had pneumonia when they were admitted to the hospital in the early stages of the coronavirus. The decline is either rapid, or there are few symptoms alerting victims until it becomes serious.

patients arrive with pneumonia

There is a vaccine for pneumonia.

[uggabugga]

mask factories are working overtime.

From South Korea to the Czech Republic, China's coronavirus outbreak has triggered a massive surge in demand for protective masks, with factories scrambling to fill orders and shops selling out.

The virus, which first appeared in the Chinese city of Wuhan, has killed 170 people and infected more than 8,000. It spreads through droplets from coughs and sneezes.

Fears of infection have sent people rushing to pharmacies. In Hong Kong's Kowloon district, anxious residents queued for seven hours on Thursday only to discover stores had sold out of masks.

Manufacturers have had to ramp up production, with some running factories 24 hours a day.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china...144955439.html

[Teacher Terry]

The vaccines for pneumonia don’t always work. A friend of mine got it despite the vaccine.

[Mikala43]

Originally Posted by newtovenice

This appears to be voluntary.

There is nothing in what you have posted that states that medical personnel MUST followup with patients who WERE DIAGNOSED and then sent home. And then send the follow-up data to a central location for capture.

Or did I miss it?

Like I said, I didn't read the whole thing. I doubt that would be in there because it is unenforceable. It also does not enforce making sick people call health care providers, because, again, unenforceable.

They are required to report everything they know (suspected cases, confirmed, etc.) that's part of the whole thing. If Nurse Debbie has worked 72 hours straight and forgets to call those patients who were supposed to call in themselves, and didn't?

It's going to happen (and the burden to initiate and call in is on the PATIENT, not health care).

[Mikala43]

Originally Posted by lchoro

Generally, cold and flu become life-threatening when they develop pneumonia or bronchitis. All the early cases had pneumonia when they were admitted to the hospital in the early stages of the coronavirus. The decline is either rapid, or there are few symptoms alerting victims until it becomes serious.

patients arrive with pneumonia

There is a vaccine for pneumonia.

For some not all, and of course, not the bacterial ones.

[trobesmom]

Originally Posted by gwynedd1

Meanwhile, 300+ million Americans have actually been exposed to the flu.

The coronavirus is much more deadly than the flu. There's no vaccine at this point, and it's effects can happen exponentially. Hospitalizations from the flu in people over 50 is about one percent. With the coronavirus, it's about 20%.

[Mikala43]

Originally Posted by uggabugga

mask factories are working overtime.

Now that the WHO has declared a public emergency, they will have more funding, and one of the first places it's going is into the manufacturing of PPE, and testing kits, etc. I'm sure they have a nice big shopping list.