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Old 02-04-2020, 04:28 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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It's potentiality deadly. Not 'deadly beyond belief'. And as I stated above, there is a war on them too. Even people with panic disorder that can really benefit from it, they use things like allergy meds now which don't even work for most people.

The days of valium and xanax being handed out like candy are over.
That's been over here for quite a while. Same with narcotic pain meds. You cannot get benzodiazepines or narcotic pain medication outside of a hospital setting from any doctor but a specialist.

And the condition you are receiving them for has to be proven and documented. And even with all that there is nothing that the DEA doesn't know about. There is no doctor/ patient priviledge.

Any doctor you go to put your name into the computer and the first thing that pops up is your DEA sheet.
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Old 02-04-2020, 05:16 PM
 
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every prohibitionist on this forum has an image in their mind of an "Addict" that conforms to addiction within a prohibited society i believe....my mother was a registered nurse who had an addiction for years..she could simply ask any doctor in the hospital...there was no robbing, thieving or degenerate behavior...just mom took "naps" at strange times..


when narcotics are easily available MOST people will learn to regulate their dosage and taper off when tolerance developers


the anti-drug laws are written to discourage the most "BAD" addict who fails even a modicum of control..everybody suffers and some profit because of a very small minority..freedom?
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Old 02-04-2020, 08:01 PM
 
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These two types of drugs should have never even been given approval for release in the first place.

Especially since there have been research/studies found indicating that both classes of drugs showing major problems with addiction and dependency but were covered up.
The tobacco companies did the same exact thing back in the 50s and 60s, there were even doctors claiming certain brands were safer than others!


Why didnt the public get outraged at the tobacco companies, for lying to the public about how addictive/ dangerous cigarettes were?!


Its acceptable for the tobacco guys to do this but not the pharma industry? LOL
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Old 02-04-2020, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I don't know. Are Opiates sold over the counter in Mexico?
I go to Nogales, 65 miles from Tucson, and I discovered a clinic and Dr. there that will write me a prescription for just about anything. And! Any prescription written by a Mexican Dr. must be honored at the Border.

People from San Diego (14 miles to the Border) and El Paso, right next to the Border are even luckier.
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Old 02-04-2020, 08:13 PM
 
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That's been over here for quite a while. Same with narcotic pain meds. You cannot get benzodiazepines or narcotic pain medication outside of a hospital setting from any doctor but a specialist.

And the condition you are receiving them for has to be proven and documented. And even with all that there is nothing that the DEA doesn't know about. There is no doctor/ patient priviledge.

Any doctor you go to put your name into the computer and the first thing that pops up is your DEA sheet.
This needs to change too!!


The DEA are nothing but criminal scum bags.
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Old 02-04-2020, 08:23 PM
 
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Nothing should be prohibited. No prescriptions should ever be needed.

Logic is very simple:
Guns are sold freely. Their purpose is to harm other people. Drugs purpose is to help people. So, in essence, we encourage harm while prohibiting help.

As for drug abuse - everything in this world can be used for abuse. Literally everything and anything. Let's prohibit everything then?

Of course, I don't think situation will ever be fixed. Too many people with too deep pockets and too big power make too much money off limiting and controlling access to drugs. That's the only real reason why Joe Sixpack has to have prescription for virtually everything. I'm surprised we still can buy aspirin and Tylenol OTC.
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Old 02-05-2020, 03:32 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What the freak!! Heck no!!

The end results of all the “legalized” junkies, zombies and the walking dead will cost FAR more than they can ever raise in taxes.

Seriously, this is a no brainer... Just think about it for a few seconds... Wow!!
The reason people aren't doing drugs is because they are illegal? That people are so dumb if those drugs became legal, then so many would rush out and do them?

You have no proof of a plethora of people becoming drugged zombies and didn't offer any so why should we believe you?

Seriously, this is a no brainer... Just think about it for a few seconds... Wow!!

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Old 02-05-2020, 03:39 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Nothing should be prohibited. No prescriptions should ever be needed.
Agreed. Legalize freedom.

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Logic is very simple:
Guns are sold freely. Their purpose is to harm other people. Drugs purpose is to help people. So, in essence, we encourage harm while prohibiting help.

As for drug abuse - everything in this world can be used for abuse. Literally everything and anything. Let's prohibit everything then?

Of course, I don't think situation will ever be fixed. Too many people with too deep pockets and too big power make too much money off limiting and controlling access to drugs. That's the only real reason why Joe Sixpack has to have prescription for virtually everything. I'm surprised we still can buy aspirin and Tylenol OTC.
The purpose of guns is too feed others as well as protection. Shooting others is a symptom of being attacked.

The drugs purpose, for some, is to make them feel better as a "kick". They are the ones who need to be treated. The drugs being taken are just a symptom of a life gone haywire. Not that you are saying one way or the other.
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Old 02-05-2020, 03:50 AM
 
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The tobacco companies did the same exact thing back in the 50s and 60s, there were even doctors claiming certain brands were safer than others!


Why didnt the public get outraged at the tobacco companies, for lying to the public about how addictive/ dangerous cigarettes were?!


Its acceptable for the tobacco guys to do this but not the pharma industry? LOL
They did and there were lawsuits.
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Old 02-05-2020, 04:22 AM
 
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For a few years it was not legal, but easy to get in "pill mills" in Florida, and people poured in from neighboring States to get some and it gave birth to the opioid epidemic we are seeing now.

So, no, the idea of legalizing it beyond reckless.
^^^100% agree. Considering all of the angst and outcry about people getting hooked on opiods, the idea of OTC at this time is bizarre.
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